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To: backwoods-engineer

The gun grabbers really need to think this through; I fear that they are so involved with their groupthink that they do not understand their own personal peril. I am old enough to remember how all of the Hollywood liberals squeeled like pigs when they watched the Watts riots, and then came begging to borrow guns from those that they despised for owning guns.

The Constitution is a pact — citizens will accept the laws of the politicians as long as the politicians respect the rights of citizens recognized by the Constitution. If the politicians step far enough over that bright line, they do so at their peril; citizens will not obey the laws, and may well resist with violence; it is called “the consent of the governed”.

When the SWAT teams confiscating guns kill the first gun owner, they will be crossing a very bright line.

If Congress passes a law to enable this, then every single Congressman who voted for it, and their staffs, become legitimate targets. If this is done by executive order, then every single member of the Administration, from the lowliest secretary to the highest Czar, from Homeland Security to EPA to BATFE to SEC to DE to ..., are legitimate targets. Lemme give you a clue — that is a very target rich environment, and there are not enough Federal agents or police to protect them all.

If the MSM members are cheering on the confiscation, they become legitimate targets. If State and local politicians cheer them on, they also become legitimate targets. If the Leftist thinktanks are cheering them on ... it might be time to clean their houses as well.

If the populace of the big cities are cheering them on ... maybe they would like to do so without electricity and/or water. Because the electrical net is so fragile, I suspect that as few as 5 people with rifles could drop the grid in an afternoon.

And ... the Professors and Administrators in the halls of higher education may rue the day that they insisted that their Universities become “gun-free zones”.

All the SWAT teams in the country cannot stop even 100 people who are an “army of one”. The FBI and Homeland Security cannot stop those 100 people, because they will act alone, and have no co-conspirators to rat them out.

Remember, when you become over-awed the the might of the Federal Government -— two people with one rifle in one car shut down the DC area for more than a week. What if they had been targeting Federal installations and their employees on the way to/from work — would the civil servants still have driven into work each day, when only one of them per day was being knocked off?

If a gun owner knows the SWAT teams are coming to get them and their guns, and they know they will face a hail of bullets ... it is easy to choose to become an army of one and go after the softer targets - the people that are directing them. They don’t talk to anybody about it ... they just get prepared to do it.


112 posted on 12/21/2012 8:52:28 PM PST by Mack the knife
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To: Mack the knife
The "line in the sand" that you describe, is not lawful.

The lawful "line in the sand" is best exemplified by The Powder Alarm of 1774.

The lawful process of using Arms to defend liberty against government-gone-wrong, is thru the militia, at the state level, or at the county level, or at the town/community level.

You must exercise martial power under the authority of a lawfully-elected legistlative body, be that your town council, your county board of governors, or your state legislature --- *only* they can authorize the exercise of martial power against government power.

The burden upon the people of a state, or upon the people of a county, or upon the people of a community, *must be so great* that it compells them to petition their lawful representatives to order The Muster - call out the militia of that jurisdiction.

You can demonstrate, practice, and train, and work as hard as you please to be prepared ... but there is one thing that you cannot do unless authorized by a lawful body of representatives ... and that is, exercise martial power.

As an individual, the weapon that you are expected to use --- that General Washington and George Mason and James Madison would expect you to use --- is the pen.

Everywhere you see some leftist espouse the establishment of a police state, rebutt them. Write them simply; just a few select sentences.

Our duty right now, is to show up in numbers, in the media, making clear these facts:

Various wordings of the Second Amendment were tried during its development. The end result *purposefully* leaves out any enumeration of reasons why an individual has the right to keep and bear Arms. Any reason *why* an individual may or may not keep and bear Arms, was left to the states and the people thereof, to settle among themselves.

The only enumeration in the Second Amendment focuses on what to do about a group of men under Arms - what is to happen when individuals who bear military grade Arms are in a group, and they *are* capable of exercising martial power. What *then,* was to become of that power?

The answer was, that both the states and the federal government would rely upon *the group* being formally mustered, well-regulated, well trained to Arms, well discplined, and answerable to civilian authority.

Both the states and the federal government sought unity of function and preparedness of the militia of each state. The state militiae should be "well trained to Arms" and be capable of, and mindful of, lawfully exercising martial power and respecting lawful civilian authority.

In the old days up to around WW-I times and for a while thereafter, there was a tradition of local militia drilling on the common, the town green, or the county fairgrounds. It gave people an opportunity to remain somewhat familiar with military duty; it helped to keep them from becoming too rusty. It demonstrated the proper practices and discipline *for all to see.*

It is a shame that most communities and counties and states got out of that practice.

All the uses of weapons, firearm or not, for non-military purposes, were left to be decided by the states and their people.

Again, there would be no condition within the Second Amendment, by which you do, or do not, have the right to keep and bear Arms; because, the Founding Fathers correctly anticipated that any such enumerated condition might be used as grounds for an individual to either be forced to bear Arms or be stripped of their Arms.

Unlike in previous years and times, when we would hope to go about our business, without having to worry about the ever-present leftist thought police, there will be this time, no rest for us into the foreseeable future.

No weapons other than the pen, will do more for us.

We will have to go at the leftists again and again and again; always working along their lines, searching for where there is opportunity to push them back.

We *are* now, deep in a cultural civil war. Rush is *wrong.* There will be no winter seclusion nor rest. We are in the fight to the end, and it will take *years,* just as General Washington never, never, never quit.

Practice here at FR, what you want to say. Use clips of what others have written.

There is plenty of ammunition here, for writing in our common defense, as you reply to the wild political charges that the left is urging toward the establishment of a police state and "peoples courts" designed to exterminate people who love liberty.

113 posted on 12/21/2012 9:27:57 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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