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To: cotton1706

NO

We are this point because of OBAMA

the newly-elected potus has more power than John Boehner and Boehner has no army smart enough to defeat him, even tactically

What we end up with will be because of OBAMA, not Boehner or any other man

I dont believe these gentlemanly dupes of the ol’ boys club ever calculated that a man like OBAMA would be the president of the US

Since the GOP can’t control him it is up to the democrats to man up and become adults- if there are any patriots left


8 posted on 12/21/2012 5:42:01 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

“We are this point because of OBAMA”

Nonsense. Speaker Bohener has continually chosen to “negotiate” a deal, i.e. a piece of legislation with the president. That is not how our government works. The president should not play any part in the crafting of legislation except perhaps making calls to individual members or suggesting amendments.

The House is its own entity. It is not a subset of the presidency. The House as a body does not need to check in with the president to find out what he will sign or what he wants. The president can sign it or not sign it when a final bill gets to him.

What he have been seeing is an intentional undermining of regular legislative order, which preserves liberty. In the debt-ceiling deal, Boehner, Reid and Obama acted like oligarchs. They met together in a room and decided what would happen, then strong-armed it into law, representative government and the people be damned. And Reid is acting as a shield to Obama because he won’t bring any bill the House passes to the floor of the Senate, or he does so it get’s voted down. He won’t allow any bill to be amended.

And Bohener has gone along with this, because he’s too weak to say “The House of Representatives will not deal with the president. We will pass bills under regular order and send them to the Senate. If the Senate chooses not to take them up, or amend them, there is nothing I can do. The House and Senate will never get to confernece to agree and the president will not receive any bill and the government will shut down if necessary.”


17 posted on 12/21/2012 5:54:29 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: silverleaf

The GOP has not cut one dime in spending nor voted to lower the debt ceiling since FDR. It’s a one party system of TWO Socialist parties. Spending is all they know.


51 posted on 12/21/2012 7:23:55 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: silverleaf
AMEN!!! We had many Freepers who refused to get down in the trenches and get dirty to stop Obama and now they want to blame this on Boehner. The truth is Democrats control the agenda and it's easy to see the short term results without thinking about what happens in the long term.

Boehner just had a press conference and he did very well. Boehner deserves combat pay, not only does he have to walk through the landmines of Democrats and this Commie/Muslim-loving president, he has to worry about Republicans shooting him in the back.

As far as the "purge" is concerned, I'm not too sure he wasn't justified in doing that, knowing Ron Paul supporters the way I do.

55 posted on 12/21/2012 7:30:28 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: silverleaf
Since the GOP can’t control him it is up to the democrats to man up and become adults- if there are any patriots left

Democrats? Patriots?

There may be a few left among the Democrat rank & file. But among their political leadership? None. They all salute the ghosts of Moscow.

88 posted on 12/21/2012 12:47:32 PM PST by okie01
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