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To: sickoflibs
We are going back to the good old days of Clinton and the tax rates that gave us prosperity and balanced budgets. If Obama and the Dems think that economy was so much better, they should support the same Clinton-era taxes for everyone, not just the "rich."

And starting next year Obamacare's taxes start kicking in.

If the majority of the public wants a European style welfare state with all the benefits, they must be ready to pay European taxes. Mark Steyn wrote,

A few months ago, I dined with a (pardon my English) French intellectual who, apropos Mitt Romney's stump-speech warnings that we were on a one-way ticket to Continental-sized dependency, chortled to me, "Americans love Big Government as much as Europeans. The only difference is that Americans refuse to admit it."

My Gallic charmer is on to something. According to the most recent (2009) OECD statistics: Government expenditures per person in France, $18,866.00; in the United States, $19,266.00. That's adjusted for purchasing-power parity, and, yes, no comparison is perfect, but did you ever think the difference between America and the cheese-eating surrender monkeys would come down to quibbling over the fine print? In that sense, the federal debt might be better understood as an American Self-Delusion Index, measuring the ever-widening gap between the national mythology (a republic of limited government and self-reliant citizens) and the reality (a 21st century cradle-to-grave nanny state in which, as the Democrats' Convention boasted, "government is the only thing we do together.").

Generally speaking, functioning societies make good-faith efforts to raise what they spend, subject to fluctuations in economic fortune: Government spending in Australia is 33.1 percent of GDP, and tax revenues are 27.1 percent. Likewise, government spending in Norway is 46.4 percent, and revenues are 41 percent – a shortfall but in the ballpark. Government spending in the United States is 42.2 percent, but revenues are 24 percent – the widest spending/taxing gulf in any major economy.

So all the agonizing over our annual trillion-plus deficits overlooks the obvious solution: Given that we're spending like Norwegians, why don't we just pay Norwegian tax rates?

184 posted on 12/20/2012 9:45:34 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar; ArmstedFragg; what's up; Arthurio; dan on the right; Perdogg; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...
RE :”If Obama and the Dems think that economy was so much better, they should support the same Clinton-era taxes for everyone, not just the “rich.”
And starting next year Obamacare’s taxes start kicking in. “

Look, I fully understand your idea in the abstract but in the REAL world Republicans being tax collectors for the Obama/Pelosi welfare state is a complete disaster,

O and liberalism gets all the credit for being the loving Santa handing out presents and you get to be the Grinch grabbing money out of our wallets that we wanted to spend on our kids.

This is a plan for disaster.

188 posted on 12/20/2012 10:03:13 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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