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To: Longbow1969

Oh, well. We’ve gone round and round about this. I think I have been clear enough. I think you have.

Over-the-counter or by-prescription should have nothing to do with politics. It is medical. For elective things like BC it has moral and other issues.

Obamacare makes medicine political. I think Sandra Fluke was a disaster for the Democrats as a poster-child for government involvement in sexual medicine. She sucks, and she’s ugly. She makes the issue ugly. She makes the Catholics look reasonable, by just defending what they believe.

You never answered my assertion that this is not the end, but just the beginning of what will be demanded as “healthcare” under Obamacare. This “over-the-counter” strategy won’t work to keep public money from being used to murder babies in the womb, or perform surgery to sexually mutilate people.

This isn’t a solution. It’s a dead-end. By trying to end the debate it validates Obamacare and invites the escalation.


61 posted on 12/20/2012 7:03:38 PM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
I think Sandra Fluke was a disaster for the Democrats as a poster-child for government involvement in sexual medicine. She sucks, and she’s ugly. She makes the issue ugly. She makes the Catholics look reasonable, by just defending what they believe.

I don't get why you think this. Sandra Fluke worked very well for the Democrats. We laugh at it, we think she's ridiculous, but that is not how the voters saw it. I mean, we lost man - and we lost pretty bad. The election wasn't that close and you really can't even take much solace in our holding the House considering we only achieved that due to gerrymanding - more of the American public actually voted for Democrat House candidates by over 1 million votes.

Look, conservatives like us see Sandra Fluke and think shes a buffoon, but the American public just aren't with us on that. Same with ridiculous stuff like The Life of Julia. We see something like that and giggle at the Democrats admitting they are socialist nannystaters - unfortunately a voting majority agreed with the Obama campaign (especially women) and thought The Life of Julia is perfectly reasonable.

We're not winning these debates. The public is not with us at the moment. Lets just make the conservative argument and push to get government out of the business of regulating birth control pills. There is no reason these can't be over the counter at this point.

You never answered my assertion that this is not the end, but just the beginning of what will be demanded as “healthcare” under Obamacare.

Yes, Obamacare is bad. I agree, more bad stuff is going to come down the pike. What of it? Of course we agree on this, but we just lost an election. We lost this debate. We should keep pushing for repeal, though the odds of it happening now are slim to none. Elections have consequences and the Democrat victory this past November pretty much guarantees Obamacare's implementation. Just because Obamacare is going to result in more bad stuff, doesn't mean we shouldn't get government out of the business of forcing people to pay costly doctor bills to get a prescription for something like birth control pills.

62 posted on 12/20/2012 7:57:22 PM PST by Longbow1969
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