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Our Sociopaths, Ourselves: What could have stopped Adam Lanza?
National Review ^ | 12/20/2012 | Christina Hoff Sommers

Posted on 12/20/2012 6:51:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Start with the marriage of two adults desiring the mind of Christ.

The Lord helps those that





seek and ask for HIS help.

We used to learn that as a child in every area of life .. not just church.

It was upheld and supported outside of church and the nuclear family ...

Was it just me, or did anyone here ALSO get disciplined after school disciplined me?

My best friend's mom whacked us both on the back of our legs (little boys in shorts) for throwing mud balls on their car, sent me home, dialed my mother, and I got it again.


America USED TO look out for each other.

America USED T'BE on the same page in the same book

21 posted on 12/20/2012 7:13:55 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SeekAndFind
"...American citizens have a constitutional right to bear arms that would surely prevent mass civilian disarmament.

I find little comfort in this statement when I remember we have this "Right" only as long as five of nine politically appointed lawyers on the Supreme Court agree we have it.

That is one of the many reasons this last election was so important. When Obama has an opportunity to appoint another Jurist on the Supreme Court, and he will, our Second Amendment Rights will be no more.

22 posted on 12/20/2012 7:17:45 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: SeekAndFind
No one seems to be looking at the values clarification activities tucked inside the health classes.

They have been there since the 1980s.

They are designed to disengage the child from the parent and from any belief in God.

Most kids are immune to it because they have very healthy relationships to begin with.

Some kids don't fare so well.

Everyone is looking at the guns, what the mother did or didn't do, etc.

The problem is in having kids go through a form of psychoanalysis by untrained personnel.

It is a real perfect storm for those who want a socialist America.

They create a populace with a socialist bent, a few crazies (by their design) are let loose, and a demand for gun control gets put on the front burner.

These programs create sociopaths. And we are paying for it with our tax dollars.

23 posted on 12/20/2012 7:22:16 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: knarf
Was it just me, or did anyone here ALSO get disciplined after school disciplined me?

It wasn't just you. My parents knew all I had been up to before I even got home...

The "grapevine" was alive and well. We never knew where, we never knew how, but they always seemed to know.

But then again, they paid attention, too.

24 posted on 12/20/2012 7:28:25 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: SeekAndFind

When they get as wild as this kid seemed to be, I think a prefrontal lobotomy might be the most charitable decision. Post lobotomy he can live in the community as calm as can be. No one would be in danger from him.


25 posted on 12/20/2012 7:30:53 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: SeekAndFind
After one of these incidents, a colleague asked his class why these atrocities always seem to be committed by loner white males in affluent suburbs. He was expecting to start some kind of socio-economic psychological discussion, but instead a young woman from -- Chicago, I believe -- said (paraphrasing and translating now):

"[Fecal material], that ain't no mystery. Brothers and sisters know what guns sound like. Some crazy [person with an unhealthy sexual obsession with his mother] starts busting caps, you know you got to run away or get behind something solid. Stupid [thin and crisp bakery products] got to stick their heads up and try to see what's going on."

A remarkably astute observation, I think.

26 posted on 12/20/2012 7:33:23 AM PST by Flatus I. Maximus (Subvert. Obstruct. Overthrow. Obama.)
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To: SeekAndFind
But, like it or not, law-abiding American citizens have a constitutional right to bear arms that would surely prevent mass civilian disarmament.

Not quite correct. We have the Constitutionally-recognized inalienable right to keep and bear arms. An inalienable right is a natrual right that, short of due process, cannot be taken away, denied, or transferred.

27 posted on 12/20/2012 7:33:31 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Smokin' Joe; knarf
"We never knew where, we never knew how, but they always seemed to know."

In my case, it didn't help matters that my father's sister .. my aunt .. worked in the lunchroom of my junior high school, and then she and my mother worked in the lunchroom/cafeteria of my senior high ...

28 posted on 12/20/2012 7:33:46 AM PST by BlueLancer (You cannot conquer a free man. The most you can do is kill him. (R. Heinlein - "If This Goes On"))
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To: Smokin' Joe; knarf

It did teach me to be resourceful though ...


29 posted on 12/20/2012 7:35:21 AM PST by BlueLancer (You cannot conquer a free man. The most you can do is kill him. (R. Heinlein - "If This Goes On"))
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To: DJ Taylor
"When Obama has an opportunity to appoint another Jurist on the Supreme Court, and he will, our Second Amendment Rights will be no more."

A right does not does not disappear when some voice in black says it does. On the contrary: when that traitor speaks, then it is clearly the time to exercise that right.

30 posted on 12/20/2012 7:37:50 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: SeekAndFind

When’s the last time a person shot up a police station or a gun shop? We put armed guards in banks and on armored cars, school kids are far more precious. We should have armed guards in every school ; it would be a good job for retired cops and MPs


31 posted on 12/20/2012 7:42:06 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Venturer

Moreover, the price would go up and guns would start flowing into the country from Central and South America to meet the demand - one more profitable import for the Cartels.


32 posted on 12/20/2012 7:44:51 AM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: muir_redwoods; SeekAndFind

Politicians and certain celebutards have armed protectors.
Who is more important to us, the politicians and the celebutards or our kids?
Take the preatorian guard away from the politicos and the celebutards and have them watch over the kids.


33 posted on 12/20/2012 7:45:10 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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The admin calls 911. The police come to the school and kill him

They took 20 minutes to arrive. It was all over by the time they got there.

34 posted on 12/20/2012 7:46:12 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dudoight

Suggestions like this just make us look crazy.


35 posted on 12/20/2012 7:52:54 AM PST by firebrand
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To: SeekAndFind

[What could have stopped Adam Lanza?]

Not unlocking a locked door to let him in.


36 posted on 12/20/2012 7:55:25 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Left is all about root causes save when their agendas are threatened.
37 posted on 12/20/2012 8:00:58 AM PST by Happy Rain (Which fires first? The gun or the 2nd Amendment haters?)
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To: firebrand
Hmmmm ... to look crazy or allow a madman be crazy ...

Dint'cha ever learn; sticks n' stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me ?

38 posted on 12/20/2012 8:03:16 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SeekAndFind
"A more promising solution is to strengthen the nation’s mental-health services."

I agree - but even this might be used against us. Look for unintended consequences.

I read that he tried to buy a gun but was turned away for two days.

He used his mother's gun. Were the guns just laying around? Were they in a safe?

How easy or difficult was it for him to access his mother's guns?

39 posted on 12/20/2012 8:07:39 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: wbill

The whole point of her article is advance just that disagreement. It is the claim that she is countering.

(I guess sometimes it is useful to read beyond the first couple of sentences in an article...)


40 posted on 12/20/2012 8:08:12 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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