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To: neverdem

These meds are given to people with mental disorders who are ALREADY suicidal/homocidal in many instances.. Maybe they don’t work that well in everyone, the symptoms continue and violence results.

It’s like saying because a large percentage of people who have heart attacks were also taking blood pressure medicines, the blood pressure medicines caused the heart attack.


3 posted on 12/19/2012 7:50:34 PM PST by Jake8898
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To: Jake8898
These meds are given to people with mental disorders who are ALREADY suicidal/homocidal in many instances..

These meds are handed out at the drop of a hat to many people who aren't suicidal or homicidal.

8 posted on 12/19/2012 7:57:09 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Jake8898

“It’s like saying because a large percentage of people who have heart attacks were also taking blood pressure medicines, the blood pressure medicines caused the heart attack.”

One difference...people were dying due too high blood pressure long before there were meds. People were NOT shooting into crowds, in near the present frequency, prior to us thinking that we could treat them, rather than simply locking them up.


11 posted on 12/19/2012 8:06:25 PM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: Jake8898
These meds are given to people with mental disorders who are ALREADY suicidal/homocidal in many instances.. Maybe they don’t work that well in everyone, the symptoms continue and violence results.

What do you think, that I'm some gullible fool? I'm a family practice doc with an interest in adverse drug reactions. Asperger's patients are not at increased risk for violence. Any patient taking these selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, SSRI, meds are. If you read the list of murders and suicides, one guy complained of insomnia. The idiot doc made a presumptive diagnosis of depression, even though SSRIs can cause insomnia.

Ritalin is methylphenidate. It works like amphetamine.

12 posted on 12/19/2012 8:23:37 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Jake8898

If they “don’t work that well in everyone,” then they shouldn’t be prescribed without supervision by the pshrink of the results.

Too many of these prescriptions are handed out like tic-tacs.


16 posted on 12/19/2012 8:35:29 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Jake8898

“....Maybe they don’t work that well in everyone....”

As one who has worked with severely emotionally disturbed
(SED) boys (8-18 yrs old) in a residential Tx facility
for fifteen years I would say that you are spot on. Most
of the kids do quite well when they are taking their
meds, others can make you wonder just how out bad things
might be if their meds were discontinued. And, sometimes
there doesn’t seem to be much difference in their out-
ward behavior once meds have bee discontinued or changed.

Very good perception on your part.


20 posted on 12/19/2012 8:54:30 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: Jake8898

“....Maybe they don’t work that well in everyone....”

As one who has worked with severely emotionally disturbed
(SED) boys (8-18 yrs old) in a residential Tx facility
for fifteen years I would say that you are spot on. Most
of the kids do quite well when they are taking their
meds, others can make you wonder just how out bad things
might be if their meds were discontinued. And, sometimes
there doesn’t seem to be much difference in their out-
ward behavior once meds have bee discontinued or changed.

Very astute perception on your part.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 8:56:29 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: Jake8898

The blood pressure medicines are supposed to REDUCE THE RISK OF HEART ATTACK — not make you think you’re now normal and will never have one...


23 posted on 12/20/2012 12:28:41 AM PST by GVnana
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To: Jake8898
These meds are given to people with mental disorders who are ALREADY suicidal/homocidal in many instances.. Maybe they don’t work that well in everyone, the symptoms continue and violence results.

That much is true.

It’s like saying because a large percentage of people who have heart attacks were also taking blood pressure medicines, the blood pressure medicines caused the heart attack.

There is also validity in the medications themselves triggering aggressive and hallucinogenic behavior. Would you believe a Freeper who has seen it happen before? I have seen it happen.

I've give you the Clinical name. It's called Serotonin Syndrome or migration. SSRI's even under best of conditions can trigger a migration of the chemical Serotonin straight to the brain from places like the stomach.

The danger? The persons hallucinations are their reality. More danger? Many doctors never heard of it including ones prescribing the medication. There does seem to be a link between it and persons who suffer neurological damage or neurological disorders as being more prone to this. Or a patient taking lets say Zoloft gets a cold and takes an OTC cough Syrup. That is all it takes. That seems to be the most common trigger to it but the SSRI or antidepressant alone can also cause it.

For the vast majority the meds do fine. But there are notiable exceptions where it goes very badly wrong very fast.

31 posted on 12/20/2012 2:22:46 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Jake8898

“These meds are given to people with mental disorders who are ALREADY suicidal/homocidal in many instances.”

The author did an excellent job sourcing his presumption with an extensive list of medicated youth violence. Can you provide counter-evidence? Please post a list of recent school shooters who were not on psych medicines.

Lanza’s uncle and neighbor both claim the boy was on psych drugs. That’s not something people randomly accuse a family member or neighbor of. I’ll take their word over the MSM’s anytime.


36 posted on 12/20/2012 4:33:26 AM PST by Justa
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