[ChildOfThe60s]

.38 special snubbies slip right into the pocket and nobody has to know you are carrying. But they are strictly up close defense tools unless you are a tournament shooter.

Chuckle. I got a S&W Airweight a couple of years ago. First time I took it to the range I was just glad to hit the target. Well, *lots* of $$ for ammo and careful practice and I can now usually do a hand size group at up to 18 feet. Which means in a real life situation I would be doing well to get a good chest hit at that distance. But I figure at 12 feet I am in fairly good shape. With good self defense ammo, the little bugger packs a pretty nice punch. It's very concealable and being a revolver with an 8.5 lb trigger pull, if you shoot someone, it's because you planned to.

[Jeff Chandler]

Yeah, I thought I was a good shot before I got my Taurus UL85. With the flame you get out of a two inch barrel you know that if you don't stop them at least they won't have any eyebrows.

Now with my CZ52 I know that I can not only stop the bad guy at a distance but the two or three bad guys lined up behind him, LOL!