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1 posted on 12/18/2012 10:13:32 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

“Organic” is largely a scam. Woe to us if we go fully organic. Everything in Africa is organic and they’re starving to death.


2 posted on 12/18/2012 10:18:14 PM PST by youngidiot (God help us.)
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To: neverdem

No.Just more expensive,


3 posted on 12/18/2012 10:18:43 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: neverdem

No.Just more expensive,


4 posted on 12/18/2012 10:18:56 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: neverdem; All

I would not be surprised if metallic minerals are metabolized differently from vitamins, antioccidents, and enzymes. A lot more research is needed, as well as much longer studies.


5 posted on 12/18/2012 10:19:11 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: neverdem

Soaking your vegetables in pesticide may not lower the nutrition value but there are other considerations here.


6 posted on 12/18/2012 10:28:11 PM PST by Roland
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To: neverdem
Not in the least. In theory it should have less detectable pesticide residue. However, it may have significant fecal residue, so pick yer poison: a maybe slightly elevated cancer risk 50 years from now, or possible E. coli within hours of consumption. Mmmm mmmm mmmm!
7 posted on 12/18/2012 10:30:48 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: neverdem

I won’t eat organic food!!!

All they do is throw shit at it and hope it grows!

I want mine raised with the proper fertalizers for the crop and soil used and pestisides to keep it bug free!!!

I had enough buggy crap before they invented DDT!!!


8 posted on 12/18/2012 10:35:02 PM PST by dalereed
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To: neverdem
Normal people have understood this for decades. "Organic" is a fairly transparent marketing scam, and has been for some time.

Essentially, a "placebo" effect for veggies.

10 posted on 12/18/2012 10:37:45 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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11 posted on 12/18/2012 10:38:18 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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12 posted on 12/18/2012 10:39:19 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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The choice between organic produce and non organic is:

One apple has far less pesticides than the other. The apple with more pesticides will cumulatively do neurological damage to you, frequently upping your odds significantly of ending your life with Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s.


14 posted on 12/18/2012 10:57:51 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: neverdem

I have been an organic gardener and farmer for over twenty years and enjoy having much healthier soil in which to grow my crops. I also enjoy the lower costs and healthier aspects of being “natural”. Not all organic producers practice a natural growing philosophy...as one vineyard owner explained to me years ago...if you have to spray an governmental ordained organic substance six times on your crops to handle a problem that can be handled with one spray of “chemicals” the chemicals are the more economical and indeed probably healthier way to go. At my level, I do not need to use chemicals ever...but, I have mainly limited my farming (small acreage) to grains and hay. My vegetable garden...which is about a third of an acre has never had a chemical on it since I purchased the farm about 18 years ago and it is highly productive and excellent, rich black soil.

Having said all this, I questioned a nutritionist (phd level) a few years back over which was more healthy to eat...they said that there has not been any research that has shown organic vegetables to be healthier...although there are indications that the growth hormones and antibiotics in meat may have been causing trouble for the last couple of generations.


17 posted on 12/19/2012 12:14:16 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: neverdem

One thing that can be said for organic foods - it significantly enhances the diets of those who grow, process, distribute, and sell them, since an endless variety of idiots pay through the nose for them, making the sale of organic foods far more profitable than selling non-organic foods.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 1:38:58 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: neverdem

It’s largely a vanity issue. “I’m really important so I have to eat organic. “

Growing organic makes more sense.


24 posted on 12/19/2012 8:31:45 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a masscre at a gun show.)
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To: neverdem

a study of a mere two trace minerals alone does not define an overall advantage, or non-advantage of “organic” foods vs foods not considered “organic”

definitely more study is needed, and in that the study periods need to be longer than a mere 28 days and the demographic sample needs to be larger than a mere 28 participants

I am not making a case here “for” organic food; I am only suggesting that the reported study is very inadequate for making a case “against” organic food


25 posted on 12/19/2012 8:36:00 AM PST by Wuli
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To: neverdem

If you do a good job at home or have an organic farm nearby that does a good proper job.... The organic produce you get will have more minerals than conventional produce. I can’t say how the organic produce is that you find at Whole Foods. It comes from many sources

So organic means no harmful sprays and if done right you get less watery and more minerals in your produce. I halfway practice this. I don’t spray but I do use a tiny bit of chem fertilizers that have trace minerals. Mulch a lot with wood chips to get the soil black with humus


34 posted on 12/20/2012 10:41:08 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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