[Sherman Logan]

I would certainly agree that guns are a force-multiplyer that allows crazy people like this man to kill a lot more than he could have done with his bare hands, and I do think people need to be honest about this and accept it as the price that has to be paid for having a Second Amendment.

Exactly.

[marktwain]

I would certainly agree that guns are a force-multiplyer that allows crazy people like this man to kill a lot more than he could have done with his bare hands, and I do think people need to be honest about this and accept it as the price that has to be paid for having a Second Amendment.

In that extremely small subset of circumstances, so very carefully defined, this may be true, but it does not appear that overall there is a significant effect. We cannot measure how many crimes were deterred or stopped because of the presence of guns, or how the overall increase in self reliance and responsibility created in an atmosphere where guns are routinely present can result in less crime.

It does appear though, that over all crime rates are not affected much by the presence or absence of legal weaponry. Mind set created by culture is much more the determining factor.