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Gunman had "altercation" with school staff day before masssacre
NBC News ^ | December 15, 2012 | Tracy Connor

Posted on 12/15/2012 10:03:16 AM PST by xsrdx

The gunman in the Newtown massacre had an "altercation" with four staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School the day before he killed 20 children, six adults and himself there, Connecticut and federal officials told NBC News Saturday.

Three of the four staff members were killed Friday in one of the worst school shootings in U.S. history. The fourth staff member was not at school that day and is being interviewed by federal and state investigators, NBC News’ Pete Williams said.

Two days before that, Adam Lanza, 20, went to a sporting goods store in Danbury, Conn., and tried to purchase a rifle, but was rebuffed because the state has a waiting period for gun sales, the officials said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 2012; adamlanza; banglist; lanza; newtown; sandyhook; schoolshooting; shooter
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To: Engedi
I blame the Mom in some of this; she had guns at home, taught him how to shoot, etc. Knowing he had mental disorder, was a Goth, etc.

Yes, that was a pretty bad call. I've been looking at the pictures of her and the father, and the photos of the boy, and two things come to mind. I'm almost afraid to bring them up (no, I AM afraid to bring them up, but here goes.)

1.) He looks nothing like them. Was he adopted?

2.) Was he gay? Sometimes they feel very bullied and it's possible a child who is both autistic and gay could feel "different" enough to really lose perspective.

201 posted on 12/16/2012 7:42:56 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: PMAS; Admin Moderator
When will any of these news sources get the story straight? It was bad enough yesterday, when it changed hour to hour

It seems the media writes their stories the way they want the stiuation to have happened, not what really happened.

Take this very thread for example.

The story was originally published with the title posted, and the words also

I found this out by doing a search:

News for The gunman in the Newtown massacre had ...

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  1. Newtown gunman had 'altercation' with school staff day before massacre - U.S. News

    NBCNews.com ‎- 21 hours ago
    UPDATED 12:30 p.m. ET: The gunman in the Newtown massacre had an "altercation" with four staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary ...
  1. The New Civil Rights Movement‎ - 21 hours ago
The top linked story (from which this tread was taken) has changed to:

Newtown gunman forced his way into school, police say

UPDATED 3:21 p.m. ET: Newtown massacre gunman Adam Lanza forced his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School, where his youngest victims were shot at close range, law enforcement officials told NBC News.

The chilling details emerged as authorities prepared to release the names of the 20 children and six adults slaughtered Friday at the Connecticut school.

They use the term "updated" to mean "too many people know the real story so we had to change ours.

Google saves the old story, but the link goes to the new story

Here is what I searched, it clears things up.

Google search on The gunman in the Newtown massacre had an "altercation" with four staff members

Mods, can we leave the "wrong" title up on this one?

202 posted on 12/16/2012 8:25:56 AM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: Syncro

What about the news video of the police taking the Bush Master out of the trunk of the car - I saw it myself.
I wonder how the shooter used that gun then put it back in the trunk after he killed himself ?

Not to mention the other teachers in the school said they heard “pops” - sounds more like the handguns making the “pops” not the Bush Master.


203 posted on 12/16/2012 8:31:31 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: PMAS
The media are like flashers.

They expose their bias all the time, and then when someone says “looks like a story, only smaller” [hat tip Pink Cadillac] they change it (close up their overcoat.)

204 posted on 12/16/2012 8:42:04 AM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: thouworm

The insignificant nugget to which I refer is the tearing not the whole speech, because that is what so many are hanging their hats on. It was there.


205 posted on 12/16/2012 8:59:10 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: kelly4c

Oh there are definitely some of those around. I replied to you on that thread. I suggest you go to any dog thread here, especially if it involves cops shooting one, and you’ll see prime examples how that nastiness and unreasonableness comes out.


206 posted on 12/16/2012 9:04:07 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: xsrdx

Time to be armed...evil in possessed people loves to kill innocents. The more innocent the better. That is the deal, especially in abortion. Be armed....teachers too, obviously!


207 posted on 12/16/2012 9:08:20 AM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Drew68
You will only be right if we don't fight to end the disarmrment. Israeli schools replied to the threat by arming staff, not making them sitting ducks.

We need to argue for allowing those who are entrusted with our children to defend them if the need arises.

208 posted on 12/16/2012 11:26:25 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: kelly4c; the OlLine Rebel; eak3

So in your world it’s okay to ghoulishly grandstand on a pile of dead children while pushing for an unconstitutional agenda.

Of course you didn’t go back to the thread you trolled.
Berating us for not believing Obama’s acting, were you not?
You and your echo eak3?

Obama didn’t shed one single tear for the dead in Chicago due to gun violence.
He didn’t shed one tear for teh dead in Benghazi.
Matter of fact, he denied any help for those in benghazi.
Yet you’d have us believe his bad acting was ‘real’?
The blinking he did is what actors do to try and work up a tear.

Sorry, he’s not letting a crisis go to waste.
That’s all.


209 posted on 12/16/2012 12:59:08 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Darksheare

Get off it. Your asumptions of any of our intentions is way off base. Don’t question my conservative credentials just because I grant the guy managed a tear. Good God. Get a grip.


210 posted on 12/16/2012 1:28:45 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“Your asumptions of any of our intentions is way off base. Don’t question my conservative credentials just because I grant the guy managed a tear.”

I can, and will because his actions are never in line with anything this nation was based on.
Name one thing he has done that was honest or in line with what the Founders intended.

You make teh mistake of believing he is one of us, he is not.
He is a marxist first and foremost.
You would do well to remember that.


211 posted on 12/16/2012 1:31:10 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: PghBaldy

The Chief ME performed 7 of the autopsies himself by 1PM Saturday, followed by the gunman and mother on Sunday morning. The remaining 19 autospies were divided among/completed by three other CT MEs by 1PM Saturday.


212 posted on 12/16/2012 4:23:12 PM PST by Moonlighter
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To: PMAS
Reports were/are erroneous/incomplete. No way the shooter could have fired off the amount of ammo that he actually did in that little time with pistols unless they were 'modified.' TMK, actual officials have not specified the exact type of weapon(s) used, only that it was a "long gun." The media is reporting it's the bush, one of which they reported was found in shooter's vehicle. Media's been wrong more than right, so it's best wait for & work off actual information from Lt. Vance and his colleagues.
213 posted on 12/16/2012 4:40:40 PM PST by Moonlighter
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To: thouworm

Stated in press conferences, corrected by local news and even some national as well. Media reporting, on the whole, has been abysmal. I haven’t seen this kind of jump the gun muck up from them since November 1999.


214 posted on 12/16/2012 4:53:00 PM PST by Moonlighter
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To: WildHighlander57

Note post# 212 on the autopsy breakdown. As for how fast authorities got there, within 10 minutes of first 911 call.


215 posted on 12/16/2012 5:00:21 PM PST by Moonlighter
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To: annieokie

I watched CNN this afternoon. They showed the Lanza home and interviewed a guy who used to babysit for Ryan and Adam Lanza. This “babysitter” was 15 years old when Adam was 10. He said that Nancy Lanza told him that Ryan was okay...that he didn’t have to be watched much, but to never ever take his eyes off Adam.

He said that when he told Adam that it was time to go to bed, he would throw a serious tantrum, which he thought was unusual for a 10 year old.


216 posted on 12/16/2012 5:32:23 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Professional Engineer

“Yesterday in China, 20 schools kids were killed with a knife.”

There were no deaths; 22 students were injured.


217 posted on 12/16/2012 5:36:44 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Moonlighter

He had 2 semi automatic pistols, probably with 15 round clips, maybe 10 round clips and he could have had many of those clips with him.
Plus the teachers said they heard “pops”, the .223’s I have used are much louder “bangs”.


218 posted on 12/16/2012 5:38:42 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: toldyou
Maybe they will show this again, wish I had seen that. Thanks for the information. Such a horrible situation for the mother and family, I sure don't know the answers to this.

I have problems with all the drugs they give these kids, and don't know if asylums are the answer either, as they were abused by some who just wanted to be rid of someone.

I don't know, sometimes I think, get the belt out and use it more.

219 posted on 12/16/2012 6:02:50 PM PST by annieokie
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Your seeing this as I am. I suspect he had a quarrel with his mother, couldn't get his way or she is demanding he get out and get a job, whatever.

He got his revenge, on anything that mattered to her.

220 posted on 12/16/2012 6:18:00 PM PST by annieokie
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