“Somewhere along in the last four years, there were significant changes that led to what has happened,” Novia said.
In 2008, Lanza’s parents filed for divorce with a judge ordering the pair to participate in a parenting education program.
Posted on 12/15/2012 10:03:16 AM PST by xsrdx
The gunman in the Newtown massacre had an "altercation" with four staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School the day before he killed 20 children, six adults and himself there, Connecticut and federal officials told NBC News Saturday.
Three of the four staff members were killed Friday in one of the worst school shootings in U.S. history. The fourth staff member was not at school that day and is being interviewed by federal and state investigators, NBC News’ Pete Williams said.
Two days before that, Adam Lanza, 20, went to a sporting goods store in Danbury, Conn., and tried to purchase a rifle, but was rebuffed because the state has a waiting period for gun sales, the officials said.
(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.nbcnews.com ...
That deserves a thread of it’s own!
Children have been the HUMAN SACRIFICE to the god of CONVENIENCE!! It's SICKENING.
I’ve been wondering where the shooter’s father was during this difficult time in the family. He had moved away and remarried. Why was his wife dealing with this difficult son by herself? Why did this father allow his mentally ill son to be in a home with guns in it?
Also, it seems to me that he could have shot his mother anywhere, but shooting her in the face denotes extreme anger against her. He destroyed her face. That’s rage.
I have been wondering if his primary target was the school.
Maybe he went to grab the guns and his mother tried to prevent him from taking the guns. Perhaps she was killed because she tried to stop him from taking the guns. Suppose he told her in a rage what he was going to do to those teachers and when she tried to stop him he killed her.
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“I have been wondering if his primary target was the school.”
Plausible. See post 56-— school being “the system.” Maggief had suggested that he might have been seeing the school psychologist for therapy.
See also post 112 for diagram of school layout of the shootings.
Once we learned mother did not work at school, I thought who he shot at the school was opportunistic rather than targeted -— just that his goal was to kill as many people as possible there.
All or most of the adults he killed, he killed BEFORE the children.
“I’m wondering now if the personality disorder wasn’t Narcissism. Folks like that get absolutely outraged over any personal slight, from what I’ve seen. They have this “How dare you offend me, I will show you what happens when you offend ME...””
The really scary part of what you say here is that the Usurper in the White Hut is a Narcist. Why is that scary?...Hitler was a Narcist...
It may be past time for serious prayer for this nation.
Agree. So was killing all of the children, rather than just the adults (whom he might have rationalized justified his rage).
Every time you get pulled over for doing 6MPH over the speed limit that’s a cop that could be at a school.
From “He shot everyone with the pistols - the rifle was in the trunk”
to
“He shot everyone with the rifle.”
When will any of these news sources get the story straight? It was bad enough yesterday, when it changed hour to hour, but it’s still changing materially today.
There is a great question right there. And was he taking any psych meds, especially SSRIs?
Richard Novia, the school district’s head of security until 2008, who also served as adviser for the school technology club, said Lanza clearly “had some disabilities.”
“If that boy would’ve burned himself, he would not have known it or felt it physically,” Novia told The Associated Press in a phone interview. “It was my job to pay close attention to that.”
Novia was responsible for monitoring students as they used soldering tools and other potentially dangerous electrical equipment.
He recalled meeting with school guidance counselors, administrators and with the boy’s mother, Nancy Lanza, to understand his problems and find ways to ensure his safety. But there were others crises only a mother could solve.
“He would have an episode, and she’d have to return or come to the high school and deal with it,” Novia said, describing how the young man would sometimes withdraw completely “from whatever he was supposed to be doing,” whether it was sitting in class or reading a book.
Adam Lanza “could take flight, which I think was the big issue, and it wasn’t a rebellious or defiant thing,” Novia said. “It was withdrawal.”
Authorities on Saturday continued a wide-ranging investigating into the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history, trying to understand what led the young man to kill his mother in their home and then slaughter 26 children and adults at a Connecticut elementary school before taking his own life.
Back in their teenage years, Adam and his older brother, Ryan, were both members of the tech club, which offered students a chance to work on computers, videotape school events and produce public-access broadcasts.
It was popular among socially awkward students. But Adam, while clearly smart, had problems that went beyond an adolescent lack of social skills, Novia said.
“You had yourself a very scared young boy, who was very nervous around people he could trust or he refused to speak with,” Novia said.
The club provided a setting for students to build lasting friendships. But while other members were acquainted with Adam, none was close to him.
“Have you found his best friend? Have you found a friend?” Novia asked. “You’re not going to. He was a loner.”
Adam was not physically bullied, although he may have been teased, Novia said.
The club gave the boy a place where he could be more at ease and indulge his interest in computers. His anxieties appeared to ease somewhat, but they never disappeared. When people approached him in the hallways, he would press himself against the wall or walk in a different direction, clutching tight to his black case.
“The behavior would be more like an 8-year-old who refuses to give up his teddy bear,” Novia said. “What you knew with Adam is it was a possession. It was not a possession to be put at risk.”
Even so, Novia said, his primary concern was that Adam might become a target for abuse by his fellow students, not that he might become a threat.
“Somewhere along in the last four years, there were significant changes that led to what has happened,” Novia said. “I could never have foreseen him doing that.”
Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2012/12/15/2725115/teacher-says-gunman-was-loner.html#storylink=cpy
Worse yet - video of their suicide; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp-BeywDvLI&feature=player_detailpage#t=554s
Nobody ever wants to say anything until it’s too late...
Cho and his scary violence filled writings.
Laughner and his freaky Youtube vids and satanic altar in the backyard.
Holmes and his shrink at college.
Now this nut, folks who knew him even in passing, knew he was strange. And nobody did a thing even after the “altercation”.
No and the phoney a$$hole wasn't moved to tears by this either. (Except possibly tears of joy) He was simply acting. The magic negro and his ilk could hardly contain their jubilation at having an excuse to push gun control.
This psychologist says narcissism is a factor in all of these types of shootings:
Yes. But my answer is more concealed weapons not less. Teachers should be able to carry in the classrooms. And at least one proficient handgun owner should be mandated in every school office. There were laws against what this monster did. Do you really think MORE laws would have prevented this?
Good article. This excerpt below causes me to wonder even more what PLANS (if the word was used accurately in that other article) the school proposed for him that Nancy disagreed with to such a extent as to pull him out of school and decide to homeschool him.
Institutionalization? a special school? We know now that money was not as issue.
What therapy was provided for him after she pulled him out?
What socializing did he have after that? One could assume perhaps none.
And, as a poster upthread posited, what contact with and feedback from father took place.
We may never know....
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He recalled meeting with school guidance counselors, administrators and with the boy’s mother, Nancy Lanza, to understand his problems and find ways to ensure his safety. But there were others crises only a mother could solve.
“He would have an episode, and she’d have to return or come to the high school and deal with it,” Novia said, describing how the young man would sometimes withdraw completely “from whatever he was supposed to be doing,” whether it was sitting in class or reading a book.
Adam Lanza “could take flight, which I think was the big issue, and it wasn’t a rebellious or defiant thing,” Novia said. “It was withdrawal.”
“Somewhere along in the last four years, there were significant changes that led to what has happened,” Novia said.
In 2008, Lanza’s parents filed for divorce with a judge ordering the pair to participate in a parenting education program.
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Definitely sounds like asbergers. especially the part about him walking down the halls of the school and freaking out when people walked toward him. That is classic Asberger’s syndrome. What people don’t realize is that these people literally don’t know what to do. They don’t know how to walk down a simple hallway...whether to turn and walk with others or continue on their way. Their brains just short out and get overwhelmed. Not making excuses for the monster...just know this is one of the classic signs.
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