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To: TwelveOfTwenty; Post Toasties

I have a hard time getting past your smugness. But I will add a couple things just to explain my perspective, whether or not it ends up meaning anything to you.

My hometown is on a reservation (I am white), and I grew up amid a group of tribes who were hounded across the Plains for untold generations by Indians of superior warring strength, primarily (and very rudimentarily) the various Siouxan or Lakotan tribes.

As a matter of fact the native people in my home area often still can’t abide the company of the Lakota, and the young men (and women) will often come to blows when they meet, just as they did when I was young.

I am grateful to have lived where I do and I have long been proud of just how well the tribes and the whites have managed to get along and grow together, through friendship and marriage and business partnerships, in the face of many and very considerable challenges.

The challenges grow greater and more painful with the passing years, as families break up (both white and Indian) and as racial strife is exacerbated by the same political opportunism—pitting group against group—that we see everywhere in the nation.

Below are a couple links to a recent story from my hometown, which recounts one of the greatest blows to community harmony in my memory (which reaches back nearly to the founding of the town).

By the way don’t let the town name throw you...it is only a startling coincidence...

http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/fbi-plans-complete-public-report-on-new-town-murders/article_0f969a76-341d-11e2-96c7-0019bb2963f4.html

http://www.bakkentoday.com/event/article/id/34430/

and, of general interest (I don’t know why the link goes to ‘Story #5...you can actually peruse the whole site):

http://www.welchdakotapapers.com/2011/12/war-drums-genuine-war-stories-from-the-sioux-mandan-hidatsa-and-arikara/#story-no-5

None of these pieces is specifically relevant to the kind of talk you were throwing around. I post them for you simply to underscore that when you live the life, when you raise your family there, when you grew up as teammates and best friends with some of the people involved (and I am talking the NATIVE family here, the family of the perpetrator, not the murder victims), then you are reflexively just a little bit resentful of mouthfuls of cliches and slurs and ad hominems...can you understand that?


298 posted on 12/19/2012 8:56:13 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey
I have a hard time getting past your smugness.

And I have a hard time trying to figure out exactly who it is you're debating. My only point (originally) was that killings and atrocities occurred long before video games came along, but in your anger at America hating liberals, you keep reading their talking points into my posts. The fact that I included Tojo as an example wasn't enough to keep you from taking it as an attack on western civilization.

I post them for you simply to underscore that when you live the life, when you raise your family there, when you grew up as teammates and best friends with some of the people involved (and I am talking the NATIVE family here, the family of the perpetrator, not the murder victims), then you are reflexively just a little bit resentful of mouthfuls of cliches and slurs and ad hominems...can you understand that?

Do I understand that the descendants of enemies can put an end to the hostilities of the past and come together? Yes. Does this conflict with my original point or anything else I've posted? You seem to think it does.

299 posted on 12/19/2012 4:18:43 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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