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To: P-Marlowe; Kaslin; Frumanchu; wmfights; wagglebee; trisham; little jeremiah; Jim Robinson; ...

Allow me to suggest a notion that’s been cooking in my brain for some time now.

1. It is acknowledged by all that Islamics are able to recruit suicidists for their dirty work specifically to create terror for the express purpose of changing society, i.e., to advance the Islamic cause.

2. It is acknowledged by many conservatives that “Fast and Furious” was a nefarious government operation by gun haters specifically designed to advance the cause of gun control in the USA. In that plan, the intent was to secretly give guns to criminals in order that gun crimes be committed, and then the gun haters controlling government could point to those crimes and boldly proclaim “We need gun control!”

3. It is a matter of fact that the institutionalization of marginally insane and insane people is much harder to accomplish under current law.

4. It is also reality that our coarsened society glorifies in all forms of print and media horrendous acts of violence, immorality, and degradation of human beings. The effect on marginally sane people cannot be positive. Would it push people over the edge who in more moral times would have had the restraints of a moral society pushing them in more positive directions.

5. It is also reality that each instance of gun violence results in days/weeks of media coverage and “fame” for the perpetrator of the violence. They are instructed in the means to commit mass murder, they are shown the horror they can cause, and they are shown that they receive both instant and some kind of historic recognition.

6. Should our media culture and its glorification of these acts of violence not be questioned about their participation in possibly pushing marginal sane/evil persons over the edge?

7. Finally, would not this process play into the hands of those who promote the disarming of its citizenry?


43 posted on 12/15/2012 7:16:00 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
6. Should our media culture and its glorification of these acts of violence not be questioned about their participation in possibly pushing marginal sane/evil persons over the edge?

What we need is not Gun control, but maybe we should start with Game Control. And then maybe Hollywood control.

Fill people with images of glorified slaughter and it makes it a lot easier for them to later act on evil thoughts and intentions.

We need to call Hollywood on the carpet. They are poisoning our children's minds with glorified senseless violence and then when something like this happens they go out and stand next to their armed body guards and give some speech about how they want to take away everyone's right to protect themselves from the evil they have planted.

I suspect this POS had a hundred different first person shooter games at home and was an expert in all of them. I suspect that if we looked in his house we would find all sorts of movies that glorify senseless killing (Quentin Tarrentino style movies) and other forms of violent Godless pornography and I would also bet that you would not find a single Bible that was used for anything other than a door stop in the house.

You reap what you sow, and Hollywood and the Game industry clearly have sown the seeds of Evil in this nation. But it will be the guns that are blamed and not the evil POS who did this or the Greedy Hollywood hypocrites who sowed the seeds of violence in this monster's black heart.

52 posted on 12/15/2012 7:29:31 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: xzins
There is much at work here, and your post addresses most of it, in a far more analytic way than anything I've seen.

So much has happened in our society since the second World War, and it shouldn't take a student of history to understand how we have come to this place. We should all be able to realize what is happening here, but it is clear that not all of us do. If we as a society do not face today's realities, we will not survive.

94 posted on 12/15/2012 2:50:06 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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