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Perhaps you haven't seen the schools, hospitals, street corners, buses, restaurants, and neighborhoods outside of your area in northern Virginia. There, illegal aliens are a neighborhood, like Little Italy was 80 years ago. Cute, go there and see some Mexicans and buy a burrito. Here, it is a full-blown reconquest. And they are not legal, they got here 5, 10 or 15 years ago, but have not assimilated in any way. That is what the article I posted refers to, although it doesn't talk about illegals. However, there have not been huge numbers of LEGAL Mexicans getting residency here in San Diego in recent years. The ones we get that are legal are mostly on visas, and they are here only to escape violence or to stay for a while and then go back.

The scary thing is the illegals are not voting in great numbers yet. They are just starting to. But with a narrow split between the parties, a few percentage points is enough to swing the balance. In a few years, as more illegals vote, and as more of their children become 18, or as more of them get amnesty if Obama gets his way, then it will be a massacre here for Republicans. And not because of illegals.

You are looking at national statistics regarding legal aliens. I am looking at California and telling you that illegals have made a big difference, and what they have done here will spread nationally. For some reason, you want to argue against something I have not even brought up--the issue of whether legal immigration is more of a problem NATIONALLY than illegal immigration.

What we both agree on is that we don't want either legal or illegal immigration. We need to close the border, send the illegals packing (through enforcement of employment verification, eliminating benefits and raids on chicken plants, farms and construction sites) AND call a timeout on all LEGAL immigration. No new citizens, no new permanent residents, and those who can be sent back home should be. We also need to return to an assimilation policy. But, again, I am spitting in the wind, as I am for a rational approach and I am in a tiny minority of Americans. All I can do is sit back and watch what it was go away.

Perhaps you haven't seen the schools, hospitals, street corners, buses, restaurants, and neighborhoods outside of your area in northern Virginia.

In Fairfax County where I live, 30% of the population of the county are foreign born. Virginia has the 9th largest population of immigrants, legal and illegal, in the nation--more than Nevada or AZ in terms of numbers. Is it any wonder Obama won VA in 2008 and 2012? VA is purple and will soon be blue.

We have a growing immigration population consisting of both Hispanics and Asians. They vote Dem two to one. As I am sure you are aware, Asians voted more heavily for Obama than Hispanics.

The scary thing is the illegals are not voting in great numbers yet. They are just starting to. But with a narrow split between the parties, a few percentage points is enough to swing the balance

It depends on the state. The illegals didn't have a thing to do with our losses in WI, IA, MI, Maine, etc. CA is lost forever to the Reps. And the illegal who vote really don't make a difference except in some Rep districts. The fact is that the entire CA congressional delegation will inevitably go all Dem.

The more scary thing is that Hispanics are not voting in the numbers they should be in terms of their numbers.

I am looking at CA and the nation. CA is the canary in the coal mine. It is where we are headed as a nation. Legal immigration is what changed CA and illegal immigration just made it worse. I have a home in AZ and have lived in San Diego back in the 1960s and have seen it since. CA is a sanctuary state. It not only does not cooperate with the Feds in enforcing our immigration laws, it rewards illegal with benefits paid by the taxpayer. When you reward something, you get more of it.

I can agree with that, but it is too late. We just had a President who gave a backdoor amnesty to 1.8 million illegal aliens including work permits while 23 million Americans look for fulltime employment. The Reps are talking about a limited amnesty and more guest workers to take the jobs away from American college graduates. Both parties have sold out the American worker and are taking this country into the sewer. The are bought and sold by corporate interests. The problem is that these workers are not widgets or units of labor. They bring their own culture and world vision. We are screwed.

This great nation is in the process of committing national suicide. And it is primarily due to LEGAL IMMIGRATION.