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To: Olog-hai

NO

The “blame” for the fiscal cliff (ie, no deal) lies on the skinny shoulders of the potus

The democrats OWN this one, not the GOP, and anger at Boehner should not cause any republicans or fair minded person to blame John Boehner for failing to cave to obama’s ridiculous demands... $1.6 TRILLION in tax hikes and NO CUTS

How do you “negotiate” with a spoiled 14 yr old having a tantrum?


7 posted on 12/13/2012 1:48:01 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

Agreed. This “blame Boenher” thing is just another example of the freudian projection that has become a time worn tactic of the dem playbook of dirty tricks.


8 posted on 12/13/2012 2:21:37 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: silverleaf

Thought this video was ridiculous (and funny) when it came out. But if we are going to spread the blame it’s time to start blaming parts of the public. Most thought this video was over the top but now I believe a-holes like this shouldn’t get away with it. These are the idiots that will blame only BONER when Obama is the most responsible of the last 4 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxyrBwhTo48


12 posted on 12/13/2012 4:04:26 AM PST by CommieCutter
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To: silverleaf
There was a glimmer of hope this am. I was watching CNBC and Cramer said he could detect a shifting of blame to Obama for failing to negotiate in good faith.

OK, I'm a realist and don't expect this to really happen because the MSM is protecting the worst president ever in the history of the US but to blame this all on Boehner is a lie.

18 posted on 12/13/2012 6:35:19 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: silverleaf

The blame for the fiscal cliff lies with the republican house which passed two bills, the democratic senate which passed two bills, and President Obama who signed two bills.

The first bill was a tax bill, which extended the Bush tax cuts for two years, and scheduled them to expire in January of 2013.

A majority of both republicans and democrats voted for this bill: “On December 15, the Senate passed the compromise package with an 81–19 vote, with large majorities of both Democrats and Republicans supporting it.[32] Near midnight of December 16, the House passed it 277–148, with it getting only a modest majority among Democrats and a large majority among Republicans (of the 148 votes against the bill in the House, 112 were cast by Democrats and only 36 by Republicans)”

The second bill was a debt ceiling bill, which increased the debt ceiling, in exchange for mandatory 10% cuts in spending equally spread between non-defense and defense spending.

A majority of republicans supported this in the house and senate. Democrats tied in the house, and a majority voted yes in the senate:
“The House passed the Budget Control Act[1] on August 1, 2011 by a vote of 269–161. 174 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted for it, while 66 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted against it.[14]” “The Senate passed the Act on August 2, 2011 by a vote of 74–26. 6 Democrats and 19 Republicans voted against it.”

President Obama signed both bills.

So, that is who is to blame for the fiscal cliff. It is the result of bills supported and passed by both parties, and signed by the current President.

Sure, NOW they say it is horrible, and must be changed. If so, why did they pass these bills in the first place? Stop passing things that are bad for America. This isn’t a natural disaster, it is an INTENDED result of legislation.

A majority of republicans voted for both these bills in both the house and senate.


19 posted on 12/13/2012 7:37:44 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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