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To: PapaBear3625
They will model their concealed-carry statute on New York City’s rules. Don’t expect “shall issue” CCW to come from this.

One step at a time. Next step is challenging "may issue".

13 posted on 12/11/2012 12:16:03 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17
Here is the decision:
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/NY10P0BS.pdf

Interesting excerpts:
The right to “bear” as distinct from the right to “keep” arms is unlikely to refer to the home. To speak of “bearing” arms within one’s home would at all times have been an awkward usage. A right to bear arms thus implies a right to carry a loaded gun outside the home.

Twenty-first century Illinois has no hostile Indians. But a Chicagoan is a good deal more likely to be attacked on a sidewalk in a rough neighborhood than in his apartment on the 35th floor of the Park Tower.

To confine the right to be armed to the home is to divorce the Second Amendment from the right of self-defense described in Heller and McDonald. It is not a property right—a right to kill a houseguest who in a fit of aesthetic fury tries to slash your copy of Norman Rockwell’s painting Santa with Elves. That is not self-defense, and this case like Heller and McDonald is just about self-defense.

Moreover, there is no reason to expect Illinois to impose minimal permit restrictions on carriage of guns outside the home, for obviously this is not a state that has a strong pro-gun culture, unlike the states that began allowing concealed carriage before Heller and MacDonald enlarged the scope of Second Amendment rights.

A person who carries a gun in public but is not well trained in the use of firearms is a menace to himself and others.

18 posted on 12/11/2012 3:32:45 PM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Planned Parenthood kills people.)
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