You've got to admit, CEW, Marlowe has a point. If we're going to drop everything "that doesn't have a snowball's chance of passing", then we will have to also drop balanced budget, smaller government, states rights, fiscal responsibility, and spending limits along with pro-life, pro-natural family, pro-traditional families, etc.
There's not a snowball's chance that the libs are going to go for any of the above.
What the libertarians are always hesitant to say is that they WANT to drop social issues like abortion and opposition to the homosexual agenda from the platform.
They despise the fact that these are discussed, yet seem to ignore the fact that conservatism only flourishes when they ARE discussed.
There is a faction of the GOP that idolizes Barry Goldwater and wants to return to conservatism as defined by Goldwater (e.g. fiscal conservatism and strong national defense); however, what they don't realize is that Goldwater's conservatism was an utter FAILURE (as a presidential candidate, he was the GOP's McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis all rolled into one). It took Ronald Reagan to realize that conservatism was a three-legged stool and only worked when fiscal, defense AND social matters were all given attention.
Oh yes, Marlowe does have a point, which I think I acknowledged. And I am not saying “drop” it - I am saying the state avenue, which has been done in NC, is often the quicker way to at least make headway. This has been my only point all along. And I think - not sure, but think - that’s Becks’ point.
It’s too bad that way too many Freepers start throwing around accusations when someone simply suggests another avenue. There is one select group of Freeprs who are always doing that too, and their absurd accusations are always the same too. Very very tiring.
FTR, you’ve never done that in my memory.
For us to achieve these goals and replace the socialists with a conservative majority fiscal conservatives are going to have to be educated why social issues are fiscal. For example, destruction of marriage with deviant marriages leads to a breakdown of marriage and birth rates. After all why should a young couple get married and start a family when marriage is just a political statement, or financial arrangement. Why not just have sex and if a baby is born the man can move on and let the state take care of it.
Abortion is a fiscal issue in that the reduced population creates a labor shortage that acts as a magnet for illegal immigrants. Until the fiscal conservatives, such as the Tea Party, embrace social issues we will remain a minority.