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To: Jim Robinson

Jim it already has been done. There are NO pro-life, pro-family planks anymore in the GOP. Isn’t that the real problem here...the GOP doesn’t agree with our view of the world?

My God man look at how many people were duped and are still duped by the Bush’s and Gingrich...


401 posted on 12/12/2012 10:24:27 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: surfer

My God man, yourself. Don’t look now, but you’re the one advocating we toss out these planks.


405 posted on 12/12/2012 10:35:57 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: surfer

Your claims are just wrong, and if you are wrong about something so easily checked out.......I would guess you are wrong about a lot more than just this.


From the GOP platform 2012:
THE SANCTITY AND DIGNITY OF HUMAN LIFEFaithful to the “self-evident” truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues to promote or perform abortion or fund organizations which perform or advocate it and will not fund or subsidize health care which includes abortion coverage. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life. We oppose the non-consensual withholding or withdrawal of care or treatment, including food and water, from people with disabilities, including newborns, as well as the elderly and infirm, just as we oppose active and passive euthanasia and assisted suicide.

Preserving and Protecting Traditional Marriage
The institution of marriage is the foundation of civil society. Its success as an institution will determine our success as a nation. It has been proven by both experience and endless social science studies that traditional marriage is best for children. Children raised in intact married families are more likely to attend college, are physically and emotionally healthier, are less likely to use drugs or alcohol, engage in crime, or get pregnant outside of marriage. The success of marriage directly impacts the economic well-being of individuals. Furthermore, the future of marriage affects freedom. The lack of family formation not only leads to more government costs, but also to more government control over the lives of its citizens in all aspects. We recognize and honor the courageous efforts of those who bear the many burdens of parenting alone, even as we believe that marriage, the union of one man and one woman must be upheld as the national standard, a goal to stand for, encourage, and promote through laws governing marriage. We embrace the principle that all Americans should be treated with respect and dignity.


411 posted on 12/12/2012 10:48:58 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: surfer; Jim Robinson; greyfoxx39; svcw; P-Marlowe; xzins; All
There are NO pro-life, pro-family planks anymore in the GOP. Isn’t that the real problem here...the GOP doesn’t agree with our view of the world? My God man look at how many people were duped and are still duped by the Bush’s and Gingrich...

Listen, you can certainly critique the GoP and Bush for being "paper tigers" on much of its pro-life rhetoric and platforms...

What you CANNOT do...without either being wrong...or lying...is to claim that the GoP & Bush were 100% paper tigers on pro-life policies.

Reagan put into place the pro-life Mexico City policy...which kept monies out of the hands of the international abortion industry.

Clinton removed it. Bush put the policy back into place.

On the Mexico City policy alone, you are dead wrong. And need to back off on your absolute claims.

448 posted on 12/12/2012 2:26:59 PM PST by Colofornian
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