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To: Kaslin

O’Reilly is stuck in the pagan past; it is the Christians that are done with the christmas myth. December 25 was the birthdate of Tammuz, Jupiter, Mythra, Osiris, and Constantine.

Yeshua was born in the fall just as all the OT prophecies said.


19 posted on 12/11/2012 9:57:44 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Christians may have done a little PR by scheduling Christmas so close to the Natalis Invicti Solis and the Saturnalia. So call it syncretism. But the depths of religious feeling provoked by Christmas and its joyful and thankful solemnities down the centuries are genuine -- and that is what our enemies propose to mock, belittle, and vilify.

The "Mattress Mac" ad-screamer down the road who thinks Christmas was invented so he could move more bedroom suites is just as much a Christmas secularizer as the ACLU lawyers and prune-faced atheist complainers they rep for.

22 posted on 12/11/2012 10:03:13 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: editor-surveyor; lentulusgracchus

O’Reilly is stuck in the pagan past; it is the Christians that are done with the christmas myth. December 25 was the birthdate of Tammuz, Jupiter, Mythra, Osiris, and Constantine.

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From what I remember of my seminary education, the December 25 Christmas date was originally instituted because of the (admittedly Greek) belief that great people were born/conceived and died on the same day. The traditional understanding was that Jesus was crucified on March 25, so the idea came up that he must have been conceived that day too. Thus, 9 months later, December 25.

Not exactly accurate, but it wasn’t syncretism, and it wasn’t bowing to pagan festivals. The early Christians wanted to celebrate the Incarnation of our Lord, and this was the best ‘guess’ that they had.

I don’t think it really matters where the Earth was in its orbit around the sun. What matters is that the ancient Church chose this time to celebrate God becoming man for our salvation and eternal life. If you want to choose another day, all power to you, but I’m going to hang onto Christmas, if for no other reason than it’s the best time of year to deliver the Gospel, because people are just a bit more receptive, in my experience.


27 posted on 12/11/2012 10:42:45 AM PST by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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To: editor-surveyor
it is the Christians that are done with the christmas myth. December 25 was the birthdate of Tammuz, Jupiter, Mythra, Osiris, and Constantine.

That would be true if we worshiped the day, but we worship The Reason for the day. The day could be any one of 365 and it would still be honored by us because of what it would represent, and unbelievers would still find fault and try to obscure The Reason for the day.

43 posted on 12/11/2012 8:35:53 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: editor-surveyor; victim soul; Isabel2010; Smokin' Joe; Michigander222; PJBankard; scottjewell; ...
O’Reilly is stuck in the pagan past; it is the Christians that are done with the christmas myth. December 25 was the birthdate of Tammuz, Jupiter, Mythra, Osiris, and Constantine.

Yeshua was born in the fall just as all the OT prophecies said.

See what some here believe. Very odd. The fruits of PROTESTant heresies on full display.
44 posted on 12/11/2012 8:45:16 PM PST by narses
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To: editor-surveyor; victim soul; Isabel2010; Smokin' Joe; Michigander222; PJBankard; scottjewell; ...
O’Reilly is stuck in the pagan past; it is the Christians that are done with the christmas myth. December 25 was the birthdate of Tammuz, Jupiter, Mythra, Osiris, and Constantine.

Yeshua was born in the fall just as all the OT prophecies said.

See what some here believe. Very odd. The fruits of PROTESTant heresies on full display.
45 posted on 12/11/2012 8:46:15 PM PST by narses
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