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To: Tublecane; Twinkie

You need to vow that you will never accept Social Security since you are going to play so high and mighty about other people that accept it in their old age, when they are tired and weak and old, after having being forced to pay for the privilege their entire working life of 50 years, all the while voting for the most conservative politics that they could.


31 posted on 12/12/2012 7:19:32 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: ansel12

Listen, me calling other people suckers for buying into the lie that the payroll tax is somehow tied to eventual SS benefits is not me playing high and mighty. Certainly it isn’t me playing high and mighty about people accepting benefits. Did you read my post, or only the word “sucker,” which apparently turns FReepers into kindergarten teachers. Quote me where I said they shouldn’t accept benefits. I wish people wouldn’t, but that’s something different.

You and others can’t wait to lecture, though, and as such slide my simple point. Which is not anyone in particular must not accept benefits. It is that you are not entitled to benefits on the basis of having paid into the system. You did not pay into the system. There is no such system. In order for you to be paid someone else’s taxes must be collected. You are a sucker if you buy into the mythical connecting between SS taxes and SS benefits. That’s all.


32 posted on 12/12/2012 7:59:01 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: ansel12

“after having been forced to pay for the privilege their entire working life”

See what you did there? People can’t help themselves, and gubmint banks on it. The implied argument is that other people must be forced to pay you for the privilege of growing old, just like you did for others before you and yet others will have to do for the generation that pays for you. You cast it as a moral connection, others as accounting. Neither hold for me, but the paperwork argument of paying into the system and getting you investment back when you retire is the weaker. And it is through it that the state makes suckers out of us.


33 posted on 12/12/2012 8:06:34 AM PST by Tublecane
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