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To: ryan71

“I used to think that if and when we have an economic collapse people would wake up and realize the Dems/Progressives/Communists screwed us. After the election, I no longer believe that. Any collapse will be blamed on CAPITALISM. People will buy it and things will get worse.”

Your observations are good. No matter how bad things may get, the left (and a growing number of Americans, approaching a majority) will ALWAYS blame “capitalism”, “the greedy Republicans”, “the evil corporations”, and of course, “the white racists”.

Pat Buchanan has written another fine piece here. For a couple of decades now he has been prescient about the future — yet because the problems he sees are not “resolvable” through current neo-conservative doctrine, he is often ridiculed here on FR.

Like many here, Mr. Buchanan sees “the crash” that is coming, with hard times for traditionalists and conservatives ahead.

If there is to be a solution, it will involve facing reality squarely on, understanding the implications, and embracing new objectives about what is coming down the pike and how to deal with that.

We have to confront the reality of “the divided nation”, and whether that nation could, or even should, survive intact. But the two “sides” have become so ideologically opposed, I don’t see how a reconciliation could be achieved, even if one is possible. Some kind of “split” may be coming, through which “the red folks” (and their respective states) may have at least a chance of survival. Without such a split, everyone goes down.

Let’s look back to one of the great disasters of history — the Titanic.

After the ship hit the iceberg, it sank from the bow downwards. As the bow filled, it pulled the stern of the ship out of the water into the air.

But the opposing forces between the weight of the sinking bow and the rising stern became too great for the ship’s superstructure to withstand, and it literally “tore itself in two”, just below the waterline (the “great noise” that those in Walter Lord’s book heard, but could not see).

Afterwards, the bow sank away. The stern momentarily settled back to the water, then it, too, sank to the bottom.

What if there had been a watertight bulkhead high enough on the stern side of “the break” high enough to keep the water out? Could the stern of the ship then survive?

This is the challenge facing “the reds”, and the leaders of the red states. That is, to “build a bulkhead” amongst themselves, strong enough that when the inevitable collapse comes, the “blue state bow” of the foundering ship (containing the “pilot house” of Washington, D.C) will split off and sink away, leaving the stern to float away on its own.

This will involve some measure of “quiet collaboration” between the Red States, so that when the national government collapses (possibly into chaos), that a new governmental framework can be quickly put in place to unite as a new confederation.

Traditionalists and conservatives must understand what is coming.
Then we must “build that bulkhead”.


25 posted on 12/11/2012 10:00:31 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide
“This will involve some measure of “quiet collaboration” between the Red States, so that when the national government collapses (possibly into chaos), that a new governmental framework can be quickly put in place to unite as a new confederation.”

I hope that is in deed happening because there will be vultures, the UN, ready to pounce and “save us” if we’d simply surrender our sovereignty to a “one world order”. A red state confederation may be our only salvation. Fine idea.

26 posted on 12/11/2012 10:47:56 AM PST by ryan71 (Water, food and ammo.)
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