Posted on 12/11/2012 5:13:21 AM PST by BO Stinkss
As one of the first, if not the first, people to say Let It Burn, I’m clearly thrilled with the growing chorus of voices joining the movement.
Like any movement, there are true believers and Let It Burn In Name Only (LIBINO) types. Since it’s never too early to purge a movement of its impure elements, let us lay out some key principles of Let It Burn.
1- America isn’t a conservative country anymore and hasn’t been for a while. Yes, you can point to lots of surveys that show people identify themselves as conservatives and they even say government should be doing fewer things.
The fact is, a conservative country doesn’t “accidentally” elect Barack Obama twice. It doesn't continue to send Democrats to the Senate who voted for ObamaCare and force the GOP to run as the saviors of Medicare.
People want the ever expanding welfare state, they simply don’t want to have to pay for it. They are happy to pretend they can “ask the rich to pay a little more” (it won't work) or to pile on debt for some generation to be born later to pay for it. What they are very clear about in their votes is...”don’t you dare touch my “free” stuff”.
One foundation of conservatism is to see the world as it is, imperfections and all, and not the way we wish it to be. Unless we can admit the reality of the country we are living in, Let It Burn makes no sense.
If you think we're just one or two tactical moves and a great candidate away from political victory, you're not in the Let It Burn camp.
2- Gabe and several commenters yesterday wondered, why isn’t Bob Corker’s “tax cuts now, entitlements later” idea consistent with Let It Burn?
The answer is simple: It’s a deliberate action is based on doing several things- raising taxes and then magically reforming entitlements.
Even if the GOP managed to "win" this standoff with Obama by generating more revenue through tax reform than hiking tax rates, who cares? We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.
“Let It Burn” is about inaction. There’s no point in trying do anything that avoids going over the fiscal cliff/sequestration. Remember, the deal that got us to this point was agreed to by House Republicans, Senate Democrats and signed by Obama. That’s as bi-partisan as it gets. I’ve heard from squishy low information voters, Obama and the media that “bi-partisan problem solving” is the Holy Grail of politics. Well, here it is.
Will it lead to massive disruptions? Yes. That’s the point. The current system is rigged against conservative. We should play no part in its perpetuation. If you can’t win the game, concede and start new one. That’s the heart of Let It Burn.
This isn't some petty "I lost so I'm taking my ball and going home" tirade. This is what people want. It's simply not sustainable. If we can't stop them, we don't have to continue to enable them either.
Bill Kristol has a column attacking the Wall Street Journal for opposing any tax hikes. John Podhoretz challenges any conservative to argue with it. Well, I just did.
What Podhoretz should have done is challenge any Republican to argue against Kritol’s analysis. That can’t be done in a serious way.
We need to start disassociating conservatism from the GOP. We’ve tried it for 30 years. It hasn’t worked.
We’ve tried to save the country from the folly of expanding liberalism and the country said, “we don’t want to be saved”. Let It Burn just means letting them have what they want and rebuilding later.
After 2010 I had some hope that we might be able to turn this massive welfare state around. The full implementation of ObamaCare means that isn’t going to happen. At least not absent a total collapse of our fiscal house of cards. Let It Burn isn’t an option, it’s an eventuality. The questions are will we be complicit in it any longer and do we want to delay it? I say no. Let the liberals own it. Very few things are made better by delaying the day of inevitable reckoning.
The sooner it burns, the sooner we can try and rebuild.
That is true. But if food is needed there must be food to take. If there is nothing in the fields to harvest it will matter little who controls the countryside.
American rural dwellers are far better able to defend themselves than Russian peasants. Passive resistance and sabotoge also come into play. Controlling enough land to feed 150 million urbanites would be colossally expensive in blood and treasure.
Read this article and you will understand what is happening:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
“Their strategy to create political, financial, and social chaos that would result in revolution blended Alinsky concepts with their more aggressive efforts at bringing about a change in U.S. government. To achieve their revolutionary change, Cloward and Piven sought to use a cadre of aggressive organizers assisted by friendly news media to force a re-distribution of the nation's wealth.”
Or the blue cities in red States.
I don’t think this turn around is likely coming in any of our lifetimes.
It took the Soviet Union 70 years to take the train into the ditch. And they started out with a country that had far, far less wealth to ste....urr, expropriate. Plus I think today’s Leftist is far smarter, and will keep the patient just barely alive in order to continue bleeding it slowly.
Add to this the fact that no matter how we eff it up, Europe will always be five times worse, and the ChiComs and Saudis have a vested interest in keeping us afloat....and we could be in for a very, very long wait before Socialism Fail happens.
Wise advice, unfortunately I doubt it will be taken.
That’s why fiscal conservatives in Congress should start voting present.
My own home county recently changed their official motto from "First in Farming" to "A Place to Call Home." Despite being Republican-controlled for a generation they are clearly content with being nothing more than a place where federal workers can lay thier fat heads. I don't know one person under 40 who is still farming.
Not to mention a sudden curtailment of electricity - no light, heat, water, elevators, gasoline, trains - think of NYC, Boston, Filthydelphia, Detroit, Chicago. In the heat of summer, naturally. If only the parasitic urbanite commie leftists [the takers] knew how they are known and detested throughout the rural and exurbanite areas - the wealth creators, they would live in existential angst.
I believe Harris county was 50/50 Obama/Romney. That is amazing for a major metropolitan area.
True. But a curtailment of electricity will be immediately percieved as an act of terror and will be rapidly set to rights by all means necessary with the full support of the majority of the populance. An agricultural strike has several points to recommend it:
It is non-destructive, which will make it difficult for the propaganda organs to label it as "terrorism."
It is passive, which will make it difficult to defend against or curtail, and will also help belie the "terror" label.
It uses their own methods against them, which at least for a time will make it more difficult to denounce.
It can be concealed for a time behind a natural event (drought or flood) or a man-made event (financial turmoil, civil unrest).
It cannot be easily rectified. If there are no crops to harvest and no herds to slaughter it will be a minimum of one year before food becomes available again in any quantity. The hordes will exhaust all available reserves long before then.
Either give up and let it burn or IMMEDIATELY start the decades long road back to the Founder’s vision by making sure you don’t send any of your children/grand-kids to government schools which are completely infested with communist teacher’s unions.
If any of us expects this to turn around while at the same time continuing to let these communist teach our children in K-12 and then into mostly communist infested colleges and universities you are more insane than a democrat.
We cannot continue this insanity of giving our political enemies control over generation after generation of our children and expecting the resulting journalists, lawyers, teachers, politicians to be anything but Marxists.
Home school if you can. Private school if you can afford it. At minimum a charter schools grounded in the Founders and our constitution.
If we all just sit back any type rants to each other and continue to send future generations to be brainwashed by the public school commie teacher’s union then we don’t deserve the country the Founders risked everything to give to us.
The Progressive communists took this country away little by little following the communist manifesto using our own tax dollar funded public schools as their indoctrination centers until they reached the tipping point of a fully brainwashed media, lawyers who care very little about constitutional law other than how to subvert it, teachers at every grade level to ramp up the disinformation about this country and a group of highly inferior USSC judges who for the most part constantly vote 5-4. These 5-4 decisions should tell anyone with an IQ over 50 that they are simply following party lines and to hell with the Constitution and We The People.
As we no longer have enough people of character and backbone to outright appose this corrupt government we MUST then follow their tactics and immediately begin the long road of teaching the truth to future generations and remove our children from the clutches of the communist within.
If we don’t start now there will be nothing to save.
1) Give the Idiot party every last thing they ask for
2) Invest in popcorn
3) Let it burn to the ground
But be forwarned. In ten short years I saw Fairfax County go from 60/40 Republican over Dem to 60/40 Dem over Republican. The only thing that changed was the population increased, and the increase was primarily drawn from urban cores (and south of the border, a problem of which folks in Texas are certainly well-aware).
I'm not sure what post-cliff America will look like. There will probably be a lot of angry people looking to a broke government for salvation. How the angry people and the government choose to handle the situation will determine a future. I hear people saying there were not any riots during the great depression so why would there be riots today? People in the thirties were more self-sufficent and didn't automatically look to government for help. You see soup kitchen lines that were orderly where today a Black Friday sale is a free for all.
My hope is that we will be able to rebuild with conservative principles and capitalism for the future of my children and grandchildren, but my observation of the human condition tells me otherwise.
Since we can only guess at the future, I can only guess at what will be required of me to take care of my family. I have prepared for a bleak future and hope the real conservatives that can rebuild the country have done the same.
Whenever I look at the electoral map, awash in red but shot through with blue blotches, it calls to mind the image of a cancer patient being steadily consumed by metastases. Is radical surgery the only hope for cure? The only problem I see with your suggested approach is that farmland could simply be nationalized as an emergency measure, and then equipment and operators would be brought in to farm it after the uncooperative original occupants had been eradicated (just think of custom harvesting expanded to include the whole cycle). Now if people simply torched their harvested crops in protest without planting a replacement in season, they might make a small dent. But I fear that the Starving The Monkeys approach isn’t going to do it at this point; I have this sick feeling that the path America is currently staggering down leads to bloodshed or serfdom, and possibly both. Unfortunately, when I look at America today I see a giant Yugoslavia, just waiting to fracture. I still hope for a Czechoslovakian outcome, but can’t deny the demographics and crime data indicating that there is an element who would be more prone to the Rwandan approach to settling irreconcilable differences.
Let it burn.
Nobody has even a weak grasp on just how many government agencies there are or what they do. Didn’t I read somewhere that 83 different government programs pay out “entitlement” benefits?
The Founders established a small central government to handle the things that the states alone couldn’t do, such as foreign affairs, coining money and military matters. That’s ALL they should be doing.
And now we’re seeing the Constitution violated, openly and repeatedly. Why am I not surprised at that? That lack of outrage over Constitutional violations is appalling, but I’ve learned not to expect better from a spineless Congress.
Let it burn.
Open acts of terrorism are unwise and ill-advised. Stoppages and work slowdowns might have a place, but I’ll leave that to other minds to consider. However, I do seem to recall that the Sons of Liberty were known for acts of civil disobedience and hooliganism. Maybe we should look for another Gaspee?
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