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To: muawiyah

“That’s why polls show support for gay marriage and referenda show no support for gay marriage.”

I agree that opinion polling is flawed on the issue, for a number of reasons. But if you look at the actual amendment votes by state, where and when they passed or not, and by how much, I don’t see a positive trend.

It wasn’t even an issue 30 years ago. Nevada passed its amendment by 67% in 2002. Hawaii passed its amendment at the very begining of the process, by 69% in ‘98. North Carolina passed its amendment by 61% in 2012 and was hailed as a very impressive victory. If NC had passed its amendment in 2002 it probably would have been in the mid-high 70% ranges, if you go by the other states around NC that passed amendments in that timeframe.

Of course the states that passed them in the high 70s will last a long time. Miss. passed one with the highest %, 86% in 2004. But some states only passed them in the 50% ranges. Ca and SD passed theirs by the lowest at 52%, Ca in 2008 and SD in 2006. I have my doubts if they would pass today. In fact, if our masters in the black robes uphold prop. 8 they will probably simply attempt to use another popular vote to repeal it. For their purposes, all they need is 51%.

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60 posted on 12/11/2012 9:03:32 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed
MD passed gay marriage this year. 250 years ago they didn't even have marriage in MD ~ so, I guess it's long term progress that they recognize some marriages.

We'll see how long that lasts though. Down on the Block they don't do marriage and don't care.

62 posted on 12/11/2012 10:49:41 AM PST by muawiyah
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