Posted on 12/10/2012 5:39:44 PM PST by Olog-hai
Syndicated columnist George Will, appearing Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” said opposition to same-sex marriage is “quite literally” dying, because opponents tend to be older Americans.
“There is something like an emerging consensus. Quite literally, the opposition to gay marriage is dying. It’s old people,” Will said. …
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“Yes, it’s moved hard to the left since Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, Obama, Obama. That’s 24 years of boomer governance. By 2016, boomers would have been in power almost twice as long as FDR. Enough is enough.”
In four years (2016) boomers will be 52 to 70 year of age.
They dodn’t elect Obama, younger people did.
These so called conservative commentators sit around inside the beltway and rationalize the Dim talking points they hear from all their neighbors. It is just possible that the current young will in fact grow up, mature and end up adopting many of the views that the current mature grownups in society have.
Sorry, that's wrong. Whoever the messenger is, either the message is correct or it is not. If Barack Obama said that 2+2=4, the facts would be on his side and I would say that he was correct. That would not mean that I trusted the source.
Where exactly did you see "surrender" in that?
False analogy.
The “source” was a USA Today/Gallup poll; polls do not translate to facts. (We certainly saw that in the last election.)
The fact that you don’t believe in defending the English Common Law. Martel fought to defend Christian civilization from the Muslims. That includes defending Christian marriage between one man and one woman, and here you are, undermining that effort.
Martel would never believe that someone with his name would advocate tearing down Christian civilization. The government has the obligation to preserve the common law, which includes Habeaus Corpus, Trial by Jury and marriage between one man and one woman, all things that Sharia despises.
You aren’t the enemy of Islam, you’re a collaborator.
“They dodn’t elect Obama, younger people did.”
You’ll find more Boomer ballots for Obama than you’ll find younger people. In 2008, more Boomers voted for Obama than against him, so yes, Boomers delivered America to Obama.
Nope, Obamacare is worse.
Obamacare will ruin the US just like Europe. I agree those bills were bad, but Obamacare is worse.
“Gay Rights” is the younger generation’s cause celebre, its civil rights issue of utmost importance. Anecdotal as it may be, I don’t know one person 30 and under who isn’t in favor of ‘gay marriage.’ That would include my own offspring, their friends, younger people I’ve worked with and around. They all seem to favor what is called ‘gay marriage.’
But it’s unnatural and serves no purpose other than sexual gratification...
There will always be an ick factor because we were not meant to have this kind of relationship...
Will can say anything he wants and our society may”accept” it but it will never be the same as heterosexual marriage...
You aren’t giving anyone facts, you are describing your own take from work, and people who question you.
I don’t think that you realize how different the over 48 year old vote is from the younger vote, regardless of who challenges you the most as parents.
You also don’t realize that immigration has already destroyed us and was a stake through the heart from which we can never recover, because the Americans that you look forward to dying off, are being replaced by loyal liberals who will never become republican, tens of millions of them, an endless supply of them, that is what JFK gave to America, it’s electoral death.
Homos are a fringe group of psychologically demented self destructive dead enders exalted to civil rights victim status by the loony left.
“That’s why ... referenda show no support for gay marriage.”
Well then, how do you explain the votes of the states of Maryland, Maine, and Washington state?
Did they show “no support”?
Wow.
I often think that teachers, as a group, are treated more poorly around here than is their due. Then I read something like this, which suggests that those harsh (if general) criticisms may just be on-target.
God help your students.
“You’ll find more Boomer ballots for Obama than you’ll find younger people. In 2008, more Boomers voted for Obama than against him, so yes, Boomers delivered America to Obama.”
You can easily prove that?
No, it was a perfectly good analogy. Let's go back to your post #78:
By asking for the “evidence to the contrary”, you imply that you do trust the source.
You can't defend that, it is obviously wrong. The message can be evaluated without considering the messenger.
My point was not to defend Mr. Will, but to point out that his critics here did not bother to present any evidence that he was wrong.
...polls do not translate to facts
They often do. The final Gallup poll before the election showed Romney 49%, Obama 48%. Not bad, and not biased against Romney.
If there is a good quality poll showing that young people oppose gay marriage, I'd love to see it.
That Gallup gay marriage poll data is in line with my personal experience. I live near a college, and I talk to a lot of college students. I would guess the percentage of students I talk to who are in favor of gay marriage at about 70%. To them it is a civil rights issue. I disagree with them, but that's not the point. The point is that they are young and that's what they believe. Of course, that's just personal, anecdotal evidence. High quality polls provide better quality data.
At this point I suppose I am obliged to to state clearly that I oppose gay marriage and I hope the Gallup poll is wrong. However, unlike posters here, I am not going to criticize Will for reporting bad data unless I have evidence that it is bad.
Almost 2500 years ago, Alexander conquered the known world. Today, my young son, deployed by the Army in Afghanistan, reports that the Tribal leaders have their “sex pets,” and there is something about Thursday where men hold hands in an intimate fashion. Since he had a classic education. He said “Dad, they’re all pederasts.”
Early Christians wanted to purify and differentiate themselves, and wanted to rid their lives of the Roman/Greek culture. Jesus was radical in that he elevated women in his movement.
The “young people” will become old and many will change their minds as they age.
I was all for homo everything until I was 21.
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