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To: BobL
NOBODY WILL LOSE BENEFITS!!! Do you understand that? You have WON that battle - you should be happy.

Apparently you didn't understand my point, the crux of which is that many people are on the receiving end of "entitlements" who SHOULD be cut off, particularly scammers, deadbeats and illegals, whose "benefits" are forcibly extorted from honest taxpaying Americans.

Cutting off this legion of grifters would be an effective step toward entitlement reform. People didn't pay into social security with the expectation that it would be used for welfare to the world.

Like I said, EVERYONE will get a free ride, including you. My point is that taxes need to be high enough to pay for all you guys. Since you guys, older conservatives, are not willing to part with one penny of what you think is owed to you (even if it was spent twice over), the ONLY question left is who pays for you guys - me, or my kids (and later grand kids)...I would like it NOT to be my kids and later generations. That is the ONLY thing left to argue over.

Wrong. Apparently you didn't understand my post. I am not an "older conservative". I have kids AND elderly parents (hence my reference to the "sandwich generation"). I didn't see anyone advocating for a "free ride" among the posters here; only you accusing others of thinking they deserve one. Your posts convey a hostile attitude toward older Americans which perfectly mirrors the divide-and-conquer, Alinskyite tactics employed by progressives to turn innocent bystanders against each other rather than toward the real villains, i.e. the corrupt politicians who have bankrupted the system and the grifters who helped them do it.

167 posted on 12/10/2012 8:14:23 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

“Apparently you didn’t understand my point, the crux of which is that many people are on the receiving end of “entitlements” who SHOULD be cut off, particularly scammers, deadbeats and illegals, whose “benefits” are forcibly extorted from honest taxpaying Americans.”

And so you’ve defined the problem. You won’t budge on your goodies, rather THEY should only budge on their goodies. To me you guys are no different, you’re both STEALING from my kids - because the pot is empty, and then some (and then a lot). So, like I keep saying, don’t worry, you will GET YOUR MONEY - there may well be no country left for my kids, but there may be no country left to speak of...but what the heck...who cares?

“People didn’t pay into social security with the expectation that it would be used for welfare to the world.”

The US Budget and its projections was NOT kept under Top Secret control - EVERYBODY knew the money was being spent as fast as it came in. And for those 3 people that (claim) to have not known it, that still doesn’t mean the DEBT should be shoved on to my kids.

“Alinskyite tactics employed by progressives to turn innocent bystanders against each other rather than toward the real villains, i.e. the corrupt politicians who have bankrupted the system and the grifters who helped them do it.”

I could care less about Alinsky. If you hadn’t drank the Koolaid and (apparently?) believed that there was some pot of gold waiting for you, you wouldn’t be taking the position you’re taking...you’d realize that THERE IS NO MONEY and maybe be willing to sacrifice, like myself, in the form of higher taxes - to keep some debt off of your kids too.

But spending cuts...HA!!! That will NEVER happen, since we conservatives DEMAND our goodies from government just as much as the libs.


171 posted on 12/10/2012 3:34:42 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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