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Insane: Liberals Contemplate $1 Trillion Platinum Coin to "Solve" Debt Limit Issue
Townhall ^ | 12/08/2012 | Guy Benson

Posted on 12/08/2012 10:32:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Beyond belief! The ONLY fix to get our economy back into recovery is a reduction of “freebies” and hand-outs of ridiculous grants for unnecessary studies, and to cut the wages and staffs of overly populated government offices and eliminate duplicate and worthless programs.


141 posted on 12/10/2012 1:24:21 PM PST by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: Lazamataz

No good. It would get all scratched up dragging in the dirt.


142 posted on 12/10/2012 1:29:41 PM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: null and void
Then I will simply have to elevate the Hitting Stick.

Think: 10 ton 3 story crane.


143 posted on 12/10/2012 1:32:07 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Gilbo_3
wouldnt it be easier, and the same difference to just *decree* to our creditors that theyve been paid in full...

maybe just send em all a *reset* button or sumthing...

the bambam could then just double down and buy all our votes for a *rebate* [stimulus] check as well ???...just put 6-7 zeros on the number and have lemmings for life...

Simple. Just declare 2013 a Jubilee Year.

Any Messiah should be able to do that...

144 posted on 12/10/2012 1:35:21 PM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: Lazamataz
Erection in Progress
145 posted on 12/10/2012 1:38:47 PM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: null and void; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale
Just declare 2013 a Jubilee Year.

Any Messiah should be able to do that...

dang null and void...i respectfully bow to your masterful sarc...schooled me good with that one... 8^}

146 posted on 12/10/2012 1:55:23 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: John S Mosby
The answer is to control the size of government— top to bottom audit— stringent thorough and complete. And then walk through each section of it— cutting away the vast waste that our govt. is.

Well said, sir!

Surely you do not believe that such a result can be achieved by universal franchise voting combined with free television "news" and infotainment - do you?

147 posted on 12/10/2012 2:05:44 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Gilbo_3

Ummmm... Sarcasm?

It was meant as a serious suggestion.

A full reset every 49 years would jam the 50 year Kondratiev wave...


148 posted on 12/10/2012 2:07:14 PM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: SeekAndFind
How about a giant rubber coin? It seems weirdly appropriate -- and Douglas Adams seems weirdly prophetic.


149 posted on 12/10/2012 3:38:30 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: SeekAndFind

While we are at it we can change the name of our country to Argentina.


150 posted on 12/10/2012 5:47:56 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why don’t we give each person a billion dollars, so we could all be billionaires? What’s economically wrong with that? /s


151 posted on 12/10/2012 5:53:40 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: jz638
>"What’s next, suggesting Joe Biden design his own perfect car to save GM?"

Uh... Volt.

Mat Groening runs our govt.

152 posted on 12/10/2012 6:03:13 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: GeronL

-— Are we insane? -—

E. Michael Jones, in “Degenerate Moderns,” and Paul Johnson, in “Intellectuals,” proved to me that the price of licensiousness is rationality. IOW, modern philosophy is one long justification of vice. Keynes was a prime example.


153 posted on 12/10/2012 6:07:32 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Bi-ped Carbon Unit

oh i figgered out the answer to why nobody uses them just have the federal mandate that all vending machines have to be retrofitted to take the coins or else


154 posted on 12/10/2012 7:00:21 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: xzins

zero combines the unconstitutional, ends-justify-the-means tactics of Lincoln with the manners and social graces of Jackson.


155 posted on 12/10/2012 7:03:03 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: SeekAndFind

Accepting for the moment that Congress authorized the issue of platinum coins at whatever value the Treasury puts on them, the act would be unconstitutional as it would abrogate the Congress’ power to coin money and regulate the value thereof. I suspect that there is legislative history in which the Congress provided some parameters to what the Treasury could do with platinum coins.


156 posted on 12/10/2012 7:08:22 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever

I have now read the code.

The section [section (k)] could be better worded.

It says the Secretary [of the Treasury] can issue platinum BULLION coins and PROOF platinum coins of whatever design and denomination he chooses.

It can be argued that the use of the word “bullion coins” means coins that are acquired as a store of value, not as a medium of exchange, whether or not they possess a legal tender value, and that sell for the cost of metal plus a modest premium so as to cover minting and distribution costs and possibly also a reasonable profit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullion_coin

It can also be argued that the use of the word “proof coins” means coins that are very highly polished so as to be of interest to collectors, and not as a store of value nor a medium of exchange; and commanding a larger premium over cost than a bullion coin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_coinage

The obvious meanings of these two terms COMBINED WITH the presumption that Congress would and should jealously guard its powers under the Constitution, would mean that the argument of the socialist progressives that their would be dictator has found away our system of checks and balances, should be summarily rejected by the courts.


157 posted on 12/10/2012 7:48:48 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: SeekAndFind

Just create “The Infinity Coin”, and then, live happily ever after.


158 posted on 12/10/2012 10:29:58 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: SeekAndFind
The platinum coins are just part of a gigantic fiscal shell game--a distraction for the eye of the gullible public.

The instant the 2 Trillion is deposited in the Treasury, the mammoth printing presses will roar into life and pour out hundreds of tons of paper 24/7.

Children playing with blocks of currency in Weimar Germany (1920's)

159 posted on 12/10/2012 11:44:53 PM PST by henbane
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To: Jim Noble

Only if the “infotainment” would be like that which helped cause say, the East German (East Berliners receiving W. Berlin TV with ads for goods, opportunity society vs. the slave State) to create desire for independence. That element of society I think is lost to the self-sufficiency citizens.

If we have gone past the tipping point, and Everyone is on the govt. teat at the “voting” level (not talking about the upper middle layers like biz subsidies which obamao has also been buying off for the machine)-— if that is now true, then this will have to be done off the grid.
Start with the Founding principles, the need for morality as a basic tenet for our Constitution to work, and also the basis for self-sufficiency— not reliant on the expanded “common good”. How many people are left who think and FEEL this way— emotionally and intellectually. There may be more than we think— and I pray that is true. But there must be a plan.
Deo Vindice.


160 posted on 12/11/2012 9:27:37 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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