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To: Usagi_yo
I've read everything Camille has ever written. She has always been rude about white-bread women like Doris Day and Sandra Dee while promoting the European and hispanic film beauties. Personally, I think they are all wonderful. But, I too, get sick of the vapid actresses of modern day moviemaking. When you grow up with actresses like Rita Hayworth and Ava Gardner and Catherine Deneuve, it's hard to appreciate Taylor Swift.

Where Camille went off the track was in 2001 when she didn't see 9/11 as the cataclysmic event that it was. She had always been an Arabist (a student of Edward Said) and this act of horror seemed to catch her unawares. She's never recovered from that day.

12 posted on 12/08/2012 4:50:07 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein; Deb

Are you two related?


14 posted on 12/08/2012 5:05:55 AM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years. RSC)
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To: miss marmelstein

When you grow up with actresses like Rita Hayworth and Ava Gardner and Catherine Deneuve, it’s hard to appreciate Taylor Swift


Even if you didn’t grow up with these stars, it’s easy to watch a movie like Cleopatra and see that they just don’t make ‘em like that anymore. Virtually no major actress on the scene today could pull of the title role like Elizabeth Taylor could. Not really any Richard Burtons left on the male side either. And this from someone who did not grow up in the Golden Era of Hollywood.


20 posted on 12/08/2012 6:24:49 AM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
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To: miss marmelstein
Paglia sometimes had a few interesting things to say. Very few--and Drudge and Rush would always make sure that those little bits got heard. The rest of her stuff is just darn aging silly lesbianism...so she's just not that HOT anymore. Ha Ha.

I thought Lopez's point about Doris Day, a big talent and gorgeous well into her maturity, was well-taken, although I never thought Calamity Jane was remotely "transgendered"--Lopez is applying his own life-view of having two mommies to this take. Doris Day was not remotely "butch" in Calimity Jane. The sharp-shooting comedic tomboy Jane was twice as alive as her insipid "feminine" rival in the movie. When Jane cleans up and puts on a dress she's twice as pretty as her rival. Watch the movie, it's darn good. Howard Keel is dynamite...

27 posted on 12/08/2012 8:01:45 AM PST by Mamzelle
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