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RE :”Kaine sounded an alarm over the Obama administration's claim that it was willing to go over the fiscal cliff — allowing massive tax increases and spending cuts to take effect in January — if congressional Republicans refuse to meet the president's demands, chief among them a tax increase for those earning more than $250,000 a year.
Kaine, who led the Democratic Party under Obama, said even a temporary deal that only delays the threat of the fiscal cliff is preferable to no deal.
Obama could move closer to a compromise by agreeing to raise taxes only on those earning at least $500,000 a year, said Kaine. He offered a nod of approval to a Republican proposal that would raise new revenues by capping income tax deductions rather than raising tax rates. “

The tax increases are automatic. Republicans don't have to help O raise any taxes because of this. Extend the tax cuts to $250K.

While extending them to $500K instead sounds tempting there is a better chance that the economy slows at Obama's demand $250K, and he owns the tax increase over that because that was his major promise.

But first thing is Rs need to stop talking about themselves raising taxes, this is so stupid, They are automatic, Stop shooting yourself. especially YOU Bohner.

The tax increases are automatic. Republicans don't have to help O raise any taxes because of this. Extend the tax cuts to $250K.

The GOP, which keeps losing these budget battles so far, could take a lesson from martial arts: Use the opponent's force against him. This kind of thing happens in politics all the time. One side wins an election, the other side uses that against them.

Of course, in a real martial arts match, the media does not take sides. This is certainly worth a try, although it seems to me that in 2012 voters really ignored the damage O had done to the economy.

We may discover that there are also important business owners whose income is greater that $1M, and who would be at a disadvantage even if the bush tax rates were extended for up to that number. Many of them may hold on to their money or move offshore when the rates go up.

But do enough US voters really want a job now? I wonder if it's going to take a serious economic crash to get rid of the Dems now. Obama's tax hike, even the 250K version, might not cause that soon.

This is easy to understand:

Democrats want to loot the country for the benefit of their supporters. They have the power to do the looting. If we ‘play alone’ with them their ‘big brother muscle’ - the MSM - will tag us with blame for the whole mess.

There are ways to walk away... we need to find those ways.