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To: Resolute Conservative

Who says they don’t stand for conservative values? I assume you mean the values falling outside the golden rule compass. Maybe some of them don’t, or even most of them. But it is a political ideology, not a philosophy for everything. They don’t want the values of which you speak being enforced by the State.

You may think without political force backing the morals that purportedly used to hold the country ravelled said morality will wither. I disagree. That’s a cultural problem, not a political one. And though politics can hurt higher culture, it can never save it. Bringing in the state does more harm, I think, than good.

Just because you say various drugs and sexual exchanges should be legal does not mean you are encouraging people to use them. If more do, that might be the fault of legalization in a sense, but that’s the price of freedom. Anyway, I still blame culture at large, not politics.

What’s all this nonsense about diversity and political correctness? S


35 posted on 12/06/2012 9:42:42 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
Just because you say various drugs and sexual exchanges should be legal does not mean you are encouraging people to use them.

It would revert to the States to make laws concerning those topics, and people could live where the laws suited them. The results would inspire others to act accordingly, imho.

Just because there is no Federal Bludgeon to impose one size fits all rules does not mean life would become unlivable, nor does it mean that people would abandon their morality in the absence of a Federal Law.

Constitutionally, the Federal Government has no authority to regulate either, and to grant it that authority means that it can regulate anything a person consumes, and anything a person does, powers which might not be used in a moral fashion.

42 posted on 12/07/2012 3:24:09 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Tublecane

“Just because you say various drugs and sexual exchanges should be legal does not mean you are encouraging people to use them.” Tacitly yes you do. If you do not condemn it then it becomes a problem. I don’t care who you pump in your house (men, women, dog, light socket..) as long as it does not harm another person or cost me money. However history has shown that where a little perversion is allowed and not held in check it escalates due to cultural apathy and before you know it is harming others and costing me money. Examples: AIDS clinics, drug rehab clinics, alcohol rehab, minority education programs, animal shelters, property damage and bystander deaths from drugs and DWI accidents.

PC and diversity nonsense - not wanting to stand up and make a statement that something out side the realm of fiscal policy is wrong.

While I agree it is a culture issue, and there are people who argue the next point, this country was not founded on that kind of fu__ up culture. It was founded on Judeo-Christian values. Like it or not, it was and therefore any deviation from that culture will change this country. It has and for the worse. Example, early on when charity was handled at a local level, families, and through churches (yes God) people were cared for just fine and the government minded it own business. Once the government decided it could do it better the apathetic liberty lovers did nothing to stop it.

You can tie fiscal policy to that directly. Before we had to accommodate all the perverted and non-main stream lifestyles we did not have to spend money on making them get their fair share and not have their feelings hurt. Example, it is my right to hire who I want. If you have a behavior that you do not demonstrate to me or affects my business then fine, but if I find out I can not hire you or fire you. We don’t need the money sucking EEOC to ensure it and make me hire an X% of something.


47 posted on 12/07/2012 8:19:52 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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