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To: metmom; MrTed; MrB; Alamo-Girl; allmendream; tacticalogic; TXnMA; MHGinTN; YHAOS; hosepipe
The ToE demands a very old earth. Take away the old earth and their theory has nothing to stand on.

But even if one were to "agree" that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old, that still would not be enough time to explain how "natural selection," working on "dumb" matter, produced the biological diversity that we see all around us today.

The evolution from bacterium to man, hypothesized as fully explicable as the outcome of matter + "random" process — i.e., as a trial-and-error sort of thing — seems to involve a huge stretch of credulity. For how much time would it actually take for a trial-and-error process to produce man — not just from a single-celled organism, but from matter itself?

And, by the way, how does such an hypothesis account for the rise of mind? There is a vast categorical difference between the "mind" of a bacterium, and the mind of homo sapiens sapiens. But if both are simply the result of material "accidents" constrained only by "natural selection," how much time do we actually need for man to occur, and what particular "hidden genius" must non-living, inert matter possess in order to account for this result?

Case in point, abiogenesis, which holds that life "spontaneously" arose from non-living matter. Yet the credulous person does not ask: Where did matter itself come from?

Plus there's no explanation of where "natural selection" came from. It's just suddenly "there." And looks to me more like an act of faith than anything else.

You don't need a "young" — i.e., six-thousand-year-old Earth — to raise these issues.

172 posted on 12/09/2012 12:27:04 PM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; metmom; MrTed; MrB; Alamo-Girl; allmendream; tacticalogic; TXnMA; MHGinTN; YHAOS

Humans believe what they want to believe.. has nothing at all to do with facts..

The recent election is all the proof that is needed..
Its always been so from time past to present..

Perception is very fickle.. even “bitchy” at times..

Otherwise how can it be explained that republicans ran
the inventor of Romney-care to offset the inventor of Obama-care..
AND IT WASN’t A JOKE.... a dalliance.. a cheeky display of... “up yours”..

But a serious effort to combat Obama-care?.. and it was!...
Apes can only imitate humans but humans actually BE APES..
YES.. even “SCIENTISTS!”.....................

NOTE; Next week will be my dialog on primates and spirits..
some of our most intelligent.... ((( AREN’T )))....


175 posted on 12/09/2012 3:55:16 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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