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Military judge taken off Ft. Hood shooting case over beard fight
LA Times ^ | December 3, 2012, 6:45 p.m. | By Matt Pearce

Posted on 12/04/2012 5:12:12 AM PST by DeaconBenjamin

A military judge's "duel of wills" with Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan over whether Hasan would have to shave made the judge appear biased, requiring his removal from the case, a military appeals court ruled Monday.

Hasan, 42, is accused of killing of 13 people and wounding 32 others in a rampage at Ft. Hood, Texas, on Nov. 5, 2009.

Hasan, who is Muslim, said that he had grown the beard for religious reasons and that it was protected under freedom of religious expression.

Military prosecutors disagreed, as did the judge, Col. Gregory Gross, who ruled that the beard violated the military dress code. Gross held Hasan in contempt of court for refusing to shave, ordered him removed from the courtroom, and ultimately ordered that his beard be forcibly shaved.

Hasan appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces. The appeals court ruled that military command, not a military judge, has responsibility for grooming standards, and that Gross could no longer convincingly appear to be unbiased in handling Hasan's case.

Gross' order to shave Hasan's beard -- and the six counts of contempt he issued to Hasan -- were wiped out by the appellate court's ruling.

"Although the military judge here stated that [Hasan's] beard was a 'disruption,' there was insufficient evidence on this record to demonstrate that [Hasan's] beard materially interfered with the proceedings," the unsigned ruling said.

"Taken together," the ruling continued, "the decision to remove [Hasan] from the courtroom, the contempt citations and the decision to order [Hasan's] forcible shaving in the absence of any command action to do the same could leave an objective observer to conclude that the military judge was not impartial."

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To: MortMan; Ratman83
I've seen the clean shaven photos as well, and no, I don't have a link for the waiver, I just remember reading on a thread a while back that he was allowed to keep his beard for religious reasons.

I actually did a photo search (ugh!) and the only bearded photo was in an orange jumpsuit. Maybe he didn't start growing it until after his arrest, but the fact they allowed him to KEEP it is prima facia evidence it was 'allowed'.

61 posted on 12/04/2012 9:49:58 AM PST by MamaTexan (It is impossible to follow the Original Intent of the Constitution and NOT acknowledge secession)
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To: MamaTexan

I don’t believe that the fact he has a beard is prima facia evidence it was allowed. From what I have gathered (although I have not been spending copious effort to keep up with the story, admittedly), he grew the beard after the rampage, once incarcerated. He was ordered to shave, but refused, citing religious reasons. It was my understanding that the military judge who recently ordered him shaven was the first to adjudicate the issue, but apparently he came to the “wrong” conclusion.

As I said, these impressions have been gained under the longer-term review of data presented, and are definitely not definitive. But I would be loathe to reassess them without direct evidence of some sort.

Thank you for responding, but I believe we will agree to disagree on this for now. Have a great day, FRiend.


62 posted on 12/04/2012 10:17:50 AM PST by MortMan (I will be true to my principles.)
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To: MamaTexan
but the fact they allowed him to KEEP it is prima facia evidence it was 'allowed'.

By your reasoning the fact that he has not been tried over three years later means his murder of multiple people is allowed also. Just because action has not been taken does not mean something is allowed.

63 posted on 12/04/2012 10:20:09 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: MortMan

You said it better than me.


64 posted on 12/04/2012 10:31:59 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83
By your reasoning the fact that he has not been tried over three years later means his murder of multiple people is allowed also.

That's downright ridiculous.

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Just because action has not been taken does not mean something is allowed.

In law, yes, it does. Silence implies consent whether it's an individual OR an entity.

By not keeping him shaved, the government implied its consent to the beard, and the burden became theirs to justify its removal.

I'm certainly not trying to defend this piece of excrement, but legal procedures are legal procedures. You don't get to pick and choose which ones you 'want' to observe.

65 posted on 12/04/2012 11:04:11 AM PST by MamaTexan (It is impossible to follow the Original Intent of the Constitution and NOT acknowledge secession)
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To: Carl Vehse

This is a court martial too; not a civvie court which would be expected to have more lenient views.


66 posted on 12/04/2012 11:07:36 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: MamaTexan

The court/military was NOT silent on the subject of the beard, hence the disputed ruling over shaving him. The issue was under litigation (for lack of a better term), and therefore one cannot construe a lack of decision as silent consent.


67 posted on 12/04/2012 12:33:19 PM PST by MortMan (I will be true to my principles.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
It's sad to know that after killing so many people, Hasan's jihad is still claiming victims. His new weapon is the court system.

That's what happens when the terrorist is allowed to live through the attack.

-PJ

68 posted on 12/04/2012 12:38:22 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: MamaTexan

Wow, first the legal proceeding to keep him shaved is exactly what was taking place. That is what this whole ruling and proceedings was about, the court and prosecution were following the law. They could not force him to do this without the ruling. Then the ruling was appealed then overruled.


69 posted on 12/04/2012 12:48:20 PM PST by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83
By your reasoning the fact that he has not been tried over three years later means his murder of multiple people is allowed also.

That's downright ridiculous since the charges are still there.

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Just because action has not been taken does not mean something is allowed.

In law, yes, it does. Silence implies consent whether it's an individual OR an entity.

By not keeping him shaved, the government implied its consent to the beard, and the burden became theirs to justify its removal.

I'm certainly not trying to defend this piece of excrement, but legal procedures are legal procedures. You don't get to pick and choose which ones you 'want' to observe.

70 posted on 12/04/2012 1:35:35 PM PST by MamaTexan (It is impossible to follow the Original Intent of the Constitution and NOT acknowledge secession)
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