[ansel12]

Here is the leftists agenda hidden behind the Libertarian Party curtain.

Libertarian Party Platform:

Throw open the borders completely; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through “political boundaries”.

Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.

Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.

Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.

Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.

Advertising those drugs, prostitution, and pornography; zero restrictions.

Military Strength; minimal capabilities.

[Gene Eric]

You're absolutely correct -- the LP platform is completely #d up; ergo, my question about the noun vs the proper noun.

There's no real way to contrast conservatism from statism. There are many Conservatives that want the govt to apply "conservative" law, and others that don't. Conservatism is essentially the opposite of leftism, not the opposite of libertarianism.

The following is an adaptation of a typical political orientation graph. I'm somewhere between conservatism and libertarianism. The parenthetical terms are mine, but the ism points are generally accepted in the realm of political analysis.

            Statism
            
  (despots)    /\    (no comment)
              /  \    
             /    \
 Leftism    /      \ Conservatism
            \      /
             \    /  
 (Liberals)   \  /   (Founding Fathers)
               \/
            
          Libertarianism

[GeronL]

libertarians are not conservative

they confuse liberty and license for one

[DanZ]

Two issues to ponder.

Looks to me you wish to be King. What laws will you impose?

One great feature of Libertarian thought - You are responsible for your actions.
You do drugs, you get no support from the G’ment.
You break the law you are prosecuted to the full extend of the law.

And yes Libertarian principles do not work in the real world with real people who have many faults

[Axenolith]

On the libertarianist side of that equation, Darwin weeds out most of the idiots that follow the hedonistic stuff, and hardly anyone crosses the border because there’s only hard work and no freebies.

On the statist/leftist side, you get everything you so despise, and vast quantities of it, because WE get to pay for all of it AND it’s sold as such...

Side note - Do realize that we’re essentially 85-90% all the way with that “platform” you posted, and there weren’t ANY Libertarians who actually were in office who got any of that stuff rolling, just Demon’Rats and Republicans...

[Smokin' Joe]

Here is the leftists agenda ...

Oh. That's the Leftists agenda. It really doesn't have squat to do with being libertarian. It's just another Communist hijack.