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To: chimera
We might be better off not bothering with the place once we’ve gotten rid of as many bad guys as we can and brought our people back home.

The whole idea was to empower the steppe peoples -- Turkoman, Kazbek, Uzbek, Tadjiks, whatever -- who were in Gen. Dostum's army and in Ahmad Shah Massoud's mujahedeen army (these were the guys who really threw out the Soviets -- the Taliban came along later) against the Pathans and their international Salafist Al Q'aeda allies.

The Taliban were Pushtu-speaking Pathan and western Pakistani madrassa products from across the mountains, and it was their hosting and providing a nation-state rabat (R&R, training-up, and rear-echelon area) to the international Al Q'aedist terrorists that added up to casus belli between the United States and the Taliban's deemed government of Afghanistan.

Without Taliban/Afghan government support, Al Q'aeda could not have put together the 9/11 attacks in the West, the embassy attacks in Africa, the Bali bombing, and the USS Cole bombing -- or the Khobar Towers attack in 1996 that preceded all these other attacks (20,000 lbs of ANFO in a gasoline tanker, four times the size of the OKC bomb).

That's why we're there -- to extinguish Pathan political and military power and their ability to reinforce across the Khyber Pass. Something that the 'Rats are very busy trying to get the American People to forget, like Svengali hypnotizing one of his subjects, or the NEA maleducating one of theirs.

37 posted on 12/03/2012 2:06:10 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Hanoi toy, McCain's their boy. (Hat tip to FReeper |neverdem|.))
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To: lentulusgracchus

So if that can be achieved, do you think the best course would then be to withdraw our people, or is a continuing presence necessary? I would be concerned if the latter were the case because if it were to happen that a long, drawn-out postlude were to be necessary the public would have little enthusiasm for it, especially if it entailed significant casualties. And of course there would be a poltical price to pay for that, which would make it unattractive as a focus of a campaign. I’m old enough to have lived through the Vietnam era. It drove Johnson from office and was a factor in Humphrey’s loss.


43 posted on 12/03/2012 6:43:23 AM PST by chimera
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