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To: Lurking Libertarian

State courts in Indiana and Georgia ruled that Obama is a natural born citizen. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit ruled that Obama is a natural born citizen. (I am talking here only about decisions on the merits, not the 100+ decisions throwing out eligibility suits on standing or other procedural grounds).


Can you cite specifically when and what was the actual ruling? And, dismissing the case because of some phony “does not have standing” is not a ruling on the merits of a case

Also, any of these judges subpeona and VIEW the official copy of Obama’s Hawaii Birth Certificate? And, not the two fake ones Obama’s people have produced

Last time I checked there has been ZERO rulings and decisions based on Obama being eligible or Natural Born.

Unfortunately, there are way too many Obama Supporters on FR, and not enough pro-Eligibility people.


10 posted on 12/01/2012 1:21:03 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do)
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To: SeminoleCounty
I am not counting rulings based on procedural grounds, of which there are over 140. The Indiana courts held, on the merits, that Obama is a natural born citizen because he was born in Hawaii. Ankeny v. Indiana, 916 N.E.2d 678 (2009). The Georgia courts held the same thing in Farrar v. Obama (2012), which was appealed up to the U.S. Supreme Court (which refused to hear the appeal). A federal court in Virginia held the same thing in Tisdale v. Obama, which was affirmed by the 4th Circuit on June 5, 2012.

None of these courts subpoenaed Obama's original birth certificate, but the Georgia courts heard testimony from supposedly-expert witnesses claiming that what Obama posted on the internet was a forgery; the judge found that the witnesses were not "experts" and that their testimony was not credible.

There is a case pending now in federal court in Mississippi, Taitz v. Democrat [sic] Party, in which the defense has submitted certified documents from Hawaii. That case is awaiting a decision.

11 posted on 12/01/2012 1:59:09 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Unfortunately, there are way too many Obama Supporters on FR, and not enough pro-Eligibility people.

You don't have to be an "Obama supporter" to believe that: (1) the courts have held that anyone born on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen, and (2) Hawaii has said that Obama was born in Hawaii.

I am far from an "Obama supporter," and I voted for Governor Romney, but pursuing eligibility cases in court after nearly 150 straight losses is just a waste of time.

17 posted on 12/01/2012 2:49:27 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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