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House passes bill to cancel diversity visa lottery
Washington Times ^ | November 30, 2012 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 12/01/2012 3:32:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

The House voted Friday to cancel the annual diversity visa lottery and give those immigration visas to high-tech foreign-born who earn advanced degrees from American universities, as Republicans powered through their chamber the first major immigration bill since the election.

The 245-139 vote was a test of the GOP’s plan to tackle immigration piecemeal, and while the bill passed, the strong opposition from Democrats suggests that Republicans’ strategy will face difficult hurdles.

And while the chief selling point of the bill was to boost green cards given to science, technology, engineering and technology students, the bigger fight came over Republicans’ plans to cancel the diversity visa lottery, which the GOP argues is rife with fraud.

“We want to put to the head of the line the people who, every single one of them that comes, net creates jobs,” said Rep. Darrell Issa, California Republican, who managed the bill on the House floor.

Democrats, though, objected to making immigration a zero-sum equation, where any new visas would have to come at the expense of existing lines of immigration.

“I can’t support a bill that pits immigrant communities against each other,” said Rep. Zoe Lofgren, the ranking Democrat on the House immigration subcommittee......

....House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, who wrote the legislation, said the visa lottery invites fraud.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: achievers; aliens; entrepreneurs; immigration; selfstarters; successstories; visa
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Be sure to give the muzzie’s first chance so they can return to their countries and work on their plans to destroy us. (sarc)


21 posted on 12/01/2012 6:56:50 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: AU72

Sounds like the IT industry in Boston where I’m working. Maybe it’s everywhere now.


22 posted on 12/01/2012 7:49:46 AM PST by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: GreatRoad

It is in Boston!


23 posted on 12/01/2012 8:34:41 AM PST by AU72
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To: AU72

The IT community is small here - I’d be a riot if we had worked together before. I dont talk about politics at work. I spent 5 yrs at a Big Bank - the only American in the group. 10 Indians, 1 Russian. They kept me to understand the specs, written in English. What a nightmare that was!


24 posted on 12/01/2012 12:47:54 PM PST by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The chance of this passing the Senate?

The chance the GOP would try to pass this stuff while they control the government??


25 posted on 12/01/2012 12:56:34 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Cowboy Bob

In other words she opposes any limits on immigration


26 posted on 12/01/2012 12:58:02 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Just had a thought... Make it a requirement for all immigrants (legal immigrants) to do service to the US when they first arrive - such as serve in the military, or some other such function.

I wonder how many people lining up for a diversity green card might change their mind if they discover they have to “earn” their way into the country...


27 posted on 12/02/2012 4:04:13 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: GreatRoad

“I spent 5 yrs at a Big Bank - the only American in the group. 10 Indians, 1 Russian.”

That sounded like one of my first jobs in junior college for an equity firm before I jumped to university. The strange part was the Indians wrote impeccable English memos and manuals but when it comes to verbal conversations, it was like I was on another planet and needed a Star Trek translator. Good chaps though..they really love strip clubs on payday.


28 posted on 12/02/2012 12:18:17 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A good start. The Republicans have to make it clear to everyone that they are not anti-immigration; they are pro-immigration of smart people. Let the Democrats be the supporters of immigrating dumbasses.
29 posted on 12/02/2012 9:53:55 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Reeses
The stupid party doesn't know that American universities have become leftist indoctrination centers. The more time spent in them, the more leftist young pliable minds become.

While this is true, there are circumstances that happily reverse this poisonous tendency in this case. These are not undergraduates studying from textbooks. These are mostly doctoral students in the sciences or performance arts. They not only get no general ed indoctrination (they only take courses in their specialty, and these are entirely subordinate to their research or performance), they experience the difference that a mostly honest, mostly free, mostly economically free society makes. Further, successful scientists or performers are often very creative and entrepreneurial. You have to run a lab, or continually market your talent.

I know hundreds of them, and typically, they love America. Many want to become Americans, and for the right reasons.

30 posted on 12/02/2012 10:10:14 PM PST by InMemoriam
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

the diversity program was created to prevent the us from being overwhelmed by the ethnic group de jour.

primarily to help european candidates who are swamped out by other groups.

This is just a visa grab. More cheep indian tech visas when there is no reason to increase those visas.

This just a way to avoid hiring more expensive u.s. workers.


31 posted on 12/03/2012 7:31:37 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: spetznaz

read the fine print.

This is to use these visas to hire workers from OUTSIDE the USA rather than the unemployed IN the USA.

IOW importing cheep labor.


32 posted on 12/03/2012 7:37:39 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: rbg81

Yes BUT:

This disregards our jobs are being exported.

Sure encourage people here to study, but KEEP JOBS HERE also.

That is what is killing us. Companies are exporting jobs.


33 posted on 12/03/2012 7:41:11 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: InMemoriam

what would a state do if voters held a referendum shutting down a state university (or two)?

Just give the university two years to shut down (or go private)


34 posted on 12/03/2012 7:44:47 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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