[from occupied ga]

Note the comments from "Angela." Here she is expecting to get something for nothing - a handout, and she has the nerve to say the thieves should be ashamed of themselves. WELL TOOTSIE ROLL DO I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU! You are a parasite and a burden on society. YOU should be ashamed of YOURSELF for being so irresoponsible as drop a kid that you expect someone else to pay for.

From my viewpoint there isn't any difference between "Angela" and then thieves except they weren't too lazy to steal on their own, and "Angela" was too lazy to even do that - doubtless relying on the government to supply her EBT card loaded with stolen dollars form the taxpayers and charity to supply her lifestyle. I wonder if she has a flat screen TV. I also wonder where be the baby daddy.

[Albion Wilde]

Did you ever wonder whether Angela is only 15, still a legally innocent child herself, and has been spawned by irresponsible parents and also abandoned by the baby daddy and his family? Have a heart. At least she did complete the parenting classes and we aren’t as likely to see her yelling at her crying baby and hitting it in the grocery aisles.

[JRandomFreeper]

Didn't Angela show up at a ministry, and attend parenting classes? Humans do make mistakes, and try to correct them. Last I checked, all have sinned.

That she attended a ministry puts her ahead of many that just wallow in thier error.

Perhaps a more forgiving attitude to fellow sinners is in order.

/johnny

[skinkinthegrass]

well...If you don't want the (little) bastard sleeping w/ you, put 'em in an open Chester drawer....
and "a pill between your knees" to keep the (big) bastard out!..
just some "helpful advice"..
& don't give me the doggie-style joke either.

[Past Your Eyes]

I’m glad I live in a different Woodstock (not that something similar might mot happen here).

[Past Your Eyes]

I’m glad I live in a different Woodstock (not that something similar might not happen here).

[grellis]

Read the article again. She does not get something for nothing. That is NOT how this kind of center works.

I have been volunteering at Shared Pregnancy here in Lansing for years, and apart from food baskets at Christmas and Easter the clients get absolutely no freebies. They earn points by attending parenting classes, which cover everything from health and nutrition to early learning, or they earn points by volunteering at the center. The points are accumulated and then cashed in when the client wants/needs something. A bag of clothing is usually 1-2 points--something like a crib is 10. Figure that it takes an hour to earn a point--how much is 10 hours of work at minimum wage?

Enough to buy a crib.

[HarleyD]

I understand where you’re coming from. There are so many of these “ministries” where they believe they’re helping these people. Yet, I’m not sure they’re really correcting attitudes (which they should be about) or just giving handouts (which is what they’re doing). It’s simply another method for redistributing the wealth. People feel sorry and give. Others take. Just because Angela attended a parenting class doesn’t mean that she has changed her attitude or her desire to “better” her life situation.

[Homer1]

another free yard sale on craigs list?

[grellis]

http://supporthopecenter.com/

The HOPE Center does not accept government donations and is totally supported by churches, businesses and individuals

Earn While You Learn (EWYL) - A one-on-one educational program between client and mentor that complements our Childbirth Preparation classes. Clients earn “Mommy Money and Daddy Dollars” to spend in the Baby & More Thrift Store.

[old and tired]

Here she is expecting to get something for nothing - a handout, and she has the nerve to say the thieves should be ashamed of themselves.

What do you mean something for nothing?? It says right there in the article she took the required parenting classes that the charity offers. She made a deal with that charity and she EARNED that crib.

Sometimes conservatives can be so judgmental and it just comes off as mean. We're not helping our cause any. THis poor kid has probably never had a break in her life, and if she grew up in the welfare system, she may never even have seen anybody she loves actually earn something. And when she goes and tries to make her life a little better for her child and all she gets is scorn.

Old and Tired's wife

[Conscience of a Conservative]

Here she is expecting to get something for nothing - a handout, and she has the nerve to say the thieves should be ashamed of themselves.

It's not something for nothing. It's a crib in exchange for doing something, in this case . She entered into an agreement with the Hope Center (a contract of sorts), where she agreed to take a class and, in exchange the Hope Center agreed to provide her with a crib. The Hope Center owned the cribs, and if they wanted to give them to people in exchange for the class, that's their decision to make. You may view taking the class as "doing nothing," but that's not your call.

From my viewpoint there isn't any difference between "Angela" and then thieves

If you think there's no difference, you're missing the operative word, theives. Again, you may not view it as a fair deal, but the Hope Center willingly agreed to give these people cribs in exchange for taking a class. By virtue of that agreement, "Angela" and the others had a right to take the cribs (just like you or I have a right to take something that is offered to us, say as a gift). The Hope Center did NOT agree to give the cribs to the people who stole them, and so those people had no right to take them.

[jrg]

OK....for the 1st one MISTAKE....let her have the crib. But as a condition, she gets the Neil Boortz treatment.....Stand her on her head and fill her with norplant

[dfwgator]

Would you rather she abort the kid?