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To: Hojczyk

We shouldn’t expect or hope a ‘fall’ will bring about a rebirth we will like. It is very rare in human history that a collapse, on any scale, of any society or civilization, brings about more freedom or positive result.

At the best case scenarios, collapses further centralize power, such as what we saw in the great depression.

In the worst case scenarios, collapses allow despots to emerge and take complete totalitarian control, such as Weimar Germany or Russia’s massive depression after the Russo-Japan war that triggered the Russian Revolution then the Bolshevik Revolution.

Not as common in the modern world except for places like some former Russian provinces shortly after the fall of the USSR, you will see many small civil wars and cities or even blocks being controlled by gangs and warlords. (think the Slavic states)

On the other hand, one could look to the fall of the USSR and places like the Czech Republic and Poland, but they had something going for them we didn’t have, the US support. What external support will we have, be it moral or physical support? Canada, Japan, India?


11 posted on 11/27/2012 8:33:21 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

The breakup of the Soviet Union was not all rainbows and unicorns. Azerbaijan and Armenia fought a war over Ngarno-Kharabach and there other unrest in Georgia. Further, there were dictators in the former Central Asian Republics and Belarus. The media swept it all under the rug, just like they tried to do with the breakup of Yugoslavia. Something happened in the early-90’s with Clinton’s election that turned the media into Pravda. The reporting on international affairs is deplorable.


17 posted on 11/27/2012 8:54:46 PM PST by Feasor13
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To: mnehring
hat external support will we have, be it moral or physical support? Canada, Japan, India?...

No, the countries that will support us, and there are many, will be more in line with those in power.

China, Venezuela, North Korea, Cuba, Iran...

56 posted on 11/28/2012 2:14:50 AM PST by C210N (In favor of private rights and public happiness)
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