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Little Falls man describes 'finishing' teenagers with shots to heads
pioneer press ^ | 11-26-12 | Joseph Lindberg

Posted on 11/26/2012 5:01:34 PM PST by TurboZamboni

A man who killed two teenagers in his home in Little Falls on Thanksgiving Day told investigators he shot and wounded the two at close range before "finishing" them with shots to the head.

Byron David Smith, 64, was charged Monday, Nov. 26, in Morrison County District Court with two counts of second-degree murder without premeditation in the deaths of Nicholas Brady, 17, and his cousin Haile Kifer, 18.

Smith claims Brady and Kifer broke into his home and he was "fearful" they had weapons, according to the criminal complaint.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: banglist; burglary; execution; littlefalls; prison
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To: DesertRhino

He was robbed in October of GUNS, gold, and cash. Guns were in the basement. He may have initially assumed that they were armed, given that “they” stole guns in October (they knew to head directly to the basement...so may well have been involved and returning for more loot).

It was probably self defense initially, the rest was retribution for the original crime. If they were guilty of the original robbery (likely)...they were truly stupid, white trash druggies. You might get away with robbing someone who has a bunch of guns ONCE...but have to be a complete idiot to try it a second time.


181 posted on 11/26/2012 10:49:47 PM PST by garandgal
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To: TurboZamboni

How stupid do you have to be to say that to law enforcement investigators?
He should do serious jail time for stupidity alone.

The correct statement is, “It happened so quick... I was scared to death and just kept shooting. I need to talk to my lawyer now.”


182 posted on 11/26/2012 10:56:43 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
The correct statement is, “It happened so quick... I was scared to death and just kept shooting. I need to talk to my lawyer now.”

Nope. That's what they have criminalists for. If his statement is truthful, he's toast. Given the likely physical evidence, there is no story he could have given that would have left him in the clear. Outside chance of insanity, but that's about it.

His best option was Home Depot bright and early Black Friday. Saws! Contractor cleanup bags! Detergents. Bleach!! (Just ask Det. Fuhrman.) And, of course, silence! Stone wall silence!

183 posted on 11/26/2012 11:17:24 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Fester Chugabrew
During the Great Depression of the 1930s, those on 'relief' worked, often for a dollar a day. My Grandfather worked on concrete bridge projects, but others built roads in National Forests, and did other infrastructure work (WPA Projects).

I think it would be fair enough to ask some sort of work from those on welfare, but in the current state of affairs, the unions would either demand membership or have a sh*tfit, there would be an ungodly number of victim claims for harassment or whatever, and actually getting any work done on Uncle Sam's Plantation would be tough, unless it involved an opportunity to rip someone/something off.

Even getting these people to clean up their own neighborhoods might be a challenge. Granted, not all would be that way, but I'd wager a significant number would.

184 posted on 11/26/2012 11:20:37 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: cynwoody
Or, call Bachman, "The Cleaner" to tidy up.


185 posted on 11/27/2012 12:15:25 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Or, call Bachman, "The Cleaner" to tidy up.

Winston Wolfe. "I solve problems."

And, I dare say, Mr Smith's problem was probably a lot easier than the one Mr Wolfe was called upon to solve. Less mess (probably). And less time pressure ... Although, on the other hand, Mr Smith's problem was real, whereas Mr Wolfe's was merely in the mind of Quentin Tarentino.

186 posted on 11/27/2012 12:40:57 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: MaxMax; DesertRhino
There are quite a few on this thread who are tough guys in their own minds.

Look at MaxMax, who apparently believes that if someone breaks into his home in the dark and wakes him up, he will be able to get off a killing head shot at a moving target. No one who actually knows how to handle a firearm thinks this way. Not even if they are an expert marksman. That's a cinematic mindset, to put it mildly.

There's one question I have about this incident: the psycho's supporters keep repeating that he had been burgled 8 times previously. Is this documented? Or is this simply another aspect of his story?

187 posted on 11/27/2012 5:48:55 AM PST by wideawake
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To: ansel12

That scumbag had plenty of boosters here as well.


188 posted on 11/27/2012 5:54:31 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
the psycho's supporters keep repeating that he had been burgled 8 times previously. Is this documented?

Only one was reported to police and of course there is no evidence that these kids were involved.

But you see he was a gunowner. That gives him immediate "conservative" status.

He then offed two people in his home. That gives him even more "conservative" credibility.

By those standards serial killers should be the heroes of all gunowning conservatives.

What makes these people think that liberals don't own guns and don't use them.

189 posted on 11/27/2012 6:18:27 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Only one was reported to police and of course there is no evidence that these kids were involved.

Hmm. I assume that was the one which reported "guns, gold and cash" as stolen.

Some preppers (certainly not all) advise their compatriots to fraudulently report theft of firearms and gold in order to conceal them from confiscating authorities when the "SHTF."

I wonder if he had ever been burgled.

But you see he was a gunowner. That gives him immediate "conservative" status.

But it's all so confusing.

He is a retired federal law enforcement officer, so he's a "JBT" and we're supposed to hate him.

But he also sounds like a prepper, so we're supposed to love him.

All kidding aside, his story obviously does not hold water and his behavior is clearly beneath contempt.

It is frightening that he has so many supporters here, on a moral level.

It is also frightening on a practical level - championing filth like this is exactly the kind of thing that creates popular antagonism to our 2A.

190 posted on 11/27/2012 6:45:22 AM PST by wideawake
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To: TheBattman

Even the sherriff says the yutes were in the process of burglarizing. That’s not disputable.

Some Skittle fans are suggesting something different. (possibly delivering Thanksgiving day ‘Meals on Wheels’?)


191 posted on 11/27/2012 7:01:21 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni
Even the sherriff says the yutes were in the process of burglarizing. That’s not disputable.

The sherriff says they broke and entered.

While they were probably burgling him before he murdered them in cold blood, sometimes a teenage boy and a teenage girl have been known to sneak into a home that they think is empty for purposes besides burgling.

192 posted on 11/27/2012 7:11:52 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Yep, and that guy is serving life now, on a 1st degree murder conviction.

Man, he was a creepy guy.


193 posted on 11/27/2012 9:57:49 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischers successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Robert357
If you are going to own a firearm, you had better know what the laws are in your jurisdiction regarding the legal use of deadly force.

And a $1M+ insurance policy, as well as the names of at least 2 defense attorneys on retainer who have agreed to take your case in such a situation.

194 posted on 11/27/2012 11:50:25 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: TurboZamboni
Brady and Kifer broke into his home

Doing this is hazardous for your health. If they had not done this, they would be alive today.

No tears for these two.
195 posted on 11/27/2012 3:44:43 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Smokin' Joe; TheBattman; Fester Chugabrew; MaxMax; Anila; Syncro; All

What I laugh at the most is how many people are on the run. Assaulted for their color (white), assaulted for their religion (Christian), assaulted for their riches (they worked their asses off and life for), assaulted for their core beliefs, assaulted for their heterosexuality (monogamous), assaulted on EVERY FRONT, who STILL want to hang on to something that IS ALREADY GONE. Don’t wait for a total STHF scenario where it somehow “makes” it ok to slaughter the wastrels stealing away YOUR life. The WAR IS ON. Yeah, let us try and “hold on”. That is what I want for my kids and grandkids. If you don’t make a stand you just leave it for them to fight. When I think about my kids or grandkids being slaughtered because they tried to hold on to “civilization”. Well... I’d just soon as not leave it for them.


196 posted on 11/27/2012 4:32:24 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: wideawake
sometimes a teenage boy and a teenage girl have been known to sneak into a home that they think is empty for purposes besides burgling

And sometimes they get shot for their EFFORT. Stop making excuses for people who, aided by sh+! for brains enablers like yourself, got something they ACTUALLY DESERVED.

197 posted on 11/27/2012 4:37:52 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: TurboZamboni
Some Skittle fans are suggesting something different. (possibly delivering Thanksgiving day ‘Meals on Wheels’?)

Yeah - the usual delivery method is slipping in/breaking a window and crawling through...

198 posted on 11/27/2012 4:51:16 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Yet another example of the “Trayvon Martin treatment”...

A couple of corrupt punk kids are shot dead upon breaking into a man’s home (a man who had been victimized repeatedly), and are made into some “sweet kids”... completely ignoring the reality of their chosen lives.

Trayvon was a gangsta wannabe who spoke and acted like a crack-headed thug.

These two so-called “victims” were following the same life plan as Trayvon and they too paid the price with their lives.

So now, society has to make an older fellow who was pushed over the edge of sanity by being victimized, into some deranged killer.


199 posted on 11/27/2012 5:05:33 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Robert357

Knowing the law isn’t normally important, self defense covers most normal person’s actions, and there is no law that protects psychotic killers, like this guy is, or that druggist in Oklahoma.


200 posted on 11/27/2012 7:42:01 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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