Posted on 11/26/2012 6:19:32 AM PST by Kaslin
Americans know instinctively that when liberals start talking about deficit reduction thats its just a case of the fantods, as Huckleberry Finn would say. And say what you will about old Huck, but he knew a couple of frauds when he saw them.
No matter what liberal Wonks like Ezra Klein say about the historically dumb healthcare reform known as Obamcare, Americans are uneasy about it.
And they should be.
The best thing- as Democrat strategist James Carville admitted last year- that could have happened for the Democrats is for the Supreme Court to have tossed out the landmark legislation that bears Obama's name.
But that didn't happen, so now the Democrats are stuck trying to make another bad law work.
Obamacare supporters like Ezra Klein, instead of trying to fix the problem continue to play dirty pool when it comes to healthcare reform. They now count it as a deficit fighter, when in fact, its no such thing.
Unless of course you count any bill with a tax increase in it as a deficit fighter. A defense contract could be a deficit fighter too, if a defense contract was designed just like Obamacare.
Here let me show you the slight of hand that liberals did to claim Obamacare fights the deficit.
Say, for example, that when we decommission the old Nimitz-class carriers we then replace them with the newer Gerald Ford class of carriers at $15 billion a clip. Lets say, in this example, that we then raise taxes 3.8 percent on people who go over a certain income limit, to an extent that we not only pay for each carrier but we also create a surplus of $100 billion that we can apply to the deficit- just as they did in Obamcare. Actually in the case of the aircraft carriers, the exact same tax increase that the used for Obamacare would pay for the carriers and leave a surplus of $180 billion over the same period, almost twice what Obamacare claims.
Then we could pass both the replacement aircraft carrier budget authorization and the tax increase in one bundle- just as they did with Obamacare- and call it the The American Affordable Defense Act (AADA).
Then any time someone threatens to scrap the Ford class carriers we could cry out But getting rid of the AADA would add to the deficit!
While the typical American doesnt necessarily know the ins and outs of Obamacare, the same confidence game has been played on them so may times that they are wise to it.
Counting on public stupidity to see a massive new spending program, like Obamacare, as some sort of deficit fighter, because THEY SAY IT IS, just shows you how weak the original case for Obamacare was in the first place.
And only in Washington can you start off entitlement reform thats supposed to reduce spending, by ushering in a massive new government program that will greatly grow government spending. And then pat yourself on the back for it.
Wasnt it the same type of entitlement Ponzi scheme that gave us the problem in the first place?
Wonks and politicians may not see it, but those guys are in the process of self term-limiting out of business anyway- either by votes or by pageviews. 2010 was just a preview, not a conclusion even accepting the standstill in the 2012 election.
Readers know that I hate to pick on the Washington Post this way, but I dont know anyone who would willingly call themselves a wonk in the first place. The Posts Wonk brand is stuck in the Way-Back Machine of the 1990s.
The Wonk Disneyland, known as DC, is exactly what gets us these kinds of political and mathematical ruses that pass for solutions these day. The only choice we will have soon is to stop complying with fefderal mandates like Obamacare.
Bceause Americans continue to favor repeal of Obamacare.
The Supreme Court decision calling Obamacare a tax will likely reinforce the opinion that its a flawed piece of legislation that greatly expands government bureaucracy at a time when Americans think that government is doing too much not too little.
You can pass Obamacare as a deficit measure and call it Constitutional -and then wonk about it all you want. But Americans know the truth.
Obamacare, like the tax on tea that saw a load of it dumped into Boston Harbor in 1773, is just plain dumb. And both also go against natural law.
I won't comply.
The fine is so small that the government won't make much from it, and the bill specifically forbids the IRS from taking punitive action for NOT paying it, unlike the income tax.
So as the insurance companies get raked they either raise their rates or drop the whole business, making things worse.
This will lead to public support for further expanding medicaid as I said, AND making the mandate tax bigger and more punitive as those not insured will either be demonized or made into victims of the greedy companies depending on income.
A lot of that goes into the set up. For example, the enclave should be in a (from the Mexican point of view) rural area. On the north side, an airstrip and access to transportation.
Gated access to and from, for authorized Mexicans from the south side of the enclave only; for authorized Americans to and from the north side only.
As such, you try and minimize and border crossing value to the cartels or for illegals. No illegal drug market in the enclave, or on either side; no easy access to or crossing of the border; no free access to medically uninvolved people.
About the only angle would be to try and hijack supply trucks going to the enclave. But even that would be easy to stop with a private highway.
“And what do you seek to win?”
Umm...votes.
You didn’t answer my question. How does calling people stupid win their vote?
It obviously doesn’t. A lot of us are still venting, but at some point a little political introspection might be wise for all of us. You don’t win elections by being condescending. You come off sounding like that which you decry.
“Umm...votes.
You didnt answer my question. How does calling people stupid win their vote?
It obviously doesnt. A lot of us are still venting, but at some point a little political introspection might be wise for all of us. You dont win elections by being condescending. You come off sounding like that which you decry.”
A fair point.
I guess I’ve written them off. If a candidate is constantly required to pass a “purity test” in addition to fending off a liberal media, and a corrupt opponent, it’s just too much to expect of someone.
Honestly, I don’t expect us to survive. I’m hoping to survive the coming crash, and possibly move to a newly constituted “Red States of America”.
I’m thinking the Pubbies are “in on it”.........
My personal belief about Obamacare is that it was designed by a bunch of demented morons and it is so flawed and unpopular it will collapse under its own weight in several years. Getting it off the ground with 14-17 states not cooperting and half the folks not even bothering to sign up is just going to be impossible. The GOP will sabateauge it at every opportunity. The economic collapse which is surely coming will finish it off.
>> “The most sensible alternative to the horrors of Obamacare are boiled down to one thing: set up an American created and run medical enclave just south of the border in Mexico.” <<
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There already is one in Ensenada, called “Adios Cancer” and it is an astounding success.
>> “The GOP will sabateauge it at every opportunity.” <<
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You’re dreaming!
Boehner has promised to bend over for Obama.
Never thought about an international plan. Do you have any good links to such plans?
Boehnor bends over for everybody. But if he gets the chance to knife it without losing his seat he will. As I mentioned other factors besides the pubbies will do Obamacare in.
“I guess Ive written them off.”
I know how you feel.
I have a feeling this is what those 16,000 IRS agents are for. If a business such as Hobby Lobby doesn’t do what it’s told, the feds will walk into every store and close them down. This whole scam is to destroy the country.
It’s our patriotic duty to help “dear leader” implement his plan of destruction ( and the quicker the makers can regain control and rebuild).
JC, pgkdan: I'm with you, 100%. I've lost my home, my marriage, my family, my automobile, my income over the past year under Obama. It's a small thing to lose my freedom as well if it were to come to that.
Really? I am sorry to hear that. Why did your wife walk out?
I know Cigna sells health insurance in Panama.
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