GOP Doomed if Establishment Prevails

American Thinker Magazine ^ | November 25, 2012 | By J. Robert Smith

[Colonel_Flagg]

You’re right. Let’s do the third party. Let’s give 25% to that party, 25% to the RNC and hope the computers counting the votes malfunction and the DNC candidate loses.
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You're right. Let's instead keep supporting a Republican National Committee that opposes conservatism and cannot win a national election.

There are two reasons to start a third party:

1) To bring the Republican Party to the realization that it will lose its power and its influence, which are the real reasons it exists, if it continues to ignore its base. If that leads to discussions about how to genuinely improve the Republican Party, great.

2) To supplant the Republican Party as the home of conservatives and conservative Democrats (i.e., the Reagan Coalition). If goal one is not reached, the Republican Party deserves to go the way of the Whigs.

Or, we could do it your way, keep nominating losers like John McCain and Mitt Romney, and keep losing national elections. Up to you.

[CincyRichieRich]

You’re right. Let’s do the third party. Let’s give 25% to that party, 25% to the RNC and hope the computers counting the votes malfunction and the DNC candidate loses.
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You’re right. Let’s instead keep supporting a Republican National Committee that opposes conservatism and cannot win a national election.

There are two reasons to start a third party:

1) To bring the Republican Party to the realization that it will lose its power and its influence, which are the real reasons it exists, if it continues to ignore its base. If that leads to discussions about how to genuinely improve the Republican Party, great.

2) To supplant the Republican Party as the home of conservatives and conservative Democrats (i.e., the Reagan Coalition). If goal one is not reached, the Republican Party deserves to go the way of the Whigs.

Or, we could do it your way, keep nominating losers like John McCain and Mitt Romney, and keep losing national elections. Up to you.

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I don’t think being insulting is the way to go. You know with certainty by my previous post nominating folks like McCain and Romney is not what I want; instead, there has to be a way to MAKE the RNC nominate Palin/West types...if you think they are like McCain or Romney then our conversation is done.

[jospehm20]

Maybe people just dd not believe Romney as he has been on both sides of pretty much every issue at some point in his political career. Romney also could not talk much about Obamacare as he is the founder of the blueprint for it. I voted for Romney only becuase he is not Obama. I did not vote for hm because I believed he had really changed from being the liberal north eastern politician he is.

[beachn4fun]

I don’t live in that environment on the hill, nor lived during the time England established their House of Commons and House of Lords and whatever else the lawyers established to rule England (besides Monarchy), but I do know that history shows the “bargining” we see between our Repubs and DemocRats is a holdover from when our ancestors left. Why else would lawyers give so much power to Congress (who happen to be lawyers) in the beginning?

And today I’m seeing the persona of “monarchy” in the attitude of our elected officials.

I think the bottom line is that GOP has abandoned American citizens in favor of compromise so that their feelings won’t get hurt when liberals call them names.

Or maybe liberalism has infiltrated the GOP?

Here’s what scares me more...both Repubs and DemocRats seem to care more for foreign entities and illegal immigrants than they do for the legal American citizen that I’m afraid the conservative voice will be silenced forever.

Don’t forget, there are those here to take over the country...communist? Progressives? Mexico? Muslims? We have to be more aware of those we elect.

[muawiyah]

The way to defeat the RNC is to simply attract several state Republican parties dominated by Conservatives to sign on to a New national committee.

That's literally how the Republican party was founded out of an amalgam of remaining Whig parties at the state level and Abolitionist groups who never quite became political parties on their own.

Make war on the RNC by taking away their state supporters.

[muawiyah]

Since we vote for representatives from single member districts, senators from states, and a president from a nation, the deal is the first party to get organized won with 50% +1 vote. The next party up had to also organize so it had a shot at 50% + 1 vote.

That leaves a third party with 0% and no votes at all!

If the third party looks to be successful, it will simply attract enough factions from the other two parties that it becomes the big player with 50% + 1 vote. The remaining parties will then coalesce to beat this new upstart.

The very design of our federal system, combined with our ancient traditions, allows only 2 parties ~

It's the math, not the law!