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To: Black Agnes
I’ve had FIVE rubella vaccines. I still have ‘0’ rubella titer. I’m not jack boot enough, though, to demand someone ELSE submit to a medical procedure they don’t agree with just to protect me. This is just the gun control argument in a different area. Moreover, neither I nor you can guarantee that forcing someone to receive the rubella vaccine (grown in a dead fetus that would be *older* than I am btw) would even generate a positive titer for them. Regardless of how many times it was repeated.

what I would support, wholeheartedly, is being deliberately innoculated WITH rubella and spending a couple weeks in a ‘rubella hostel’ somewhere. Think of it as an away camp for 10yr old girls. Never have to worry about your status again. Or who might have it.

Back when I was in Navy boot camp, I was one of two girls in my company (of 80 girls) who had a negative rubella titer. So the other girl and I were sent off to get the vaccine. My titer was never tested again, so I do not know if that particular vaccination worked. I do know that I have never had rubella, nor have I ever seen someone with rubella.

If you don't become immune from the vaccine, there is no guarantee you would become immune from the disease, either. And there is a chance that if you fail to become immune from the vaccine, it is because you have an immune system defect--in which case, becoming infected with the disease (deliberately or otherwise) could kill you. Choosing to get a potential fatal or disabling disease just to avoid being poked with a tiny needle isn't very logical.

When I was a kid, I got chicken pox. A few months ago, I got shingles, because the chicken pox virus is still alive inside my nerves. The shingles rash is gone, but I still have pain (post-herpetic neuralgia). Even though the shingles vaccine is recommended for people older than me, you better believe I'll ask for it on my next annual exam--I *don't* want to get shingles again.

211 posted on 11/24/2012 8:00:58 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

My issue with the current rubella vaccine is completely unrelated to the ‘teeny tiny little needle’ they use. I’m a t2d. I fear sharp pointy objects NOT.

I object to the use of dead babies in its production. Even IF they could assure me they’re all out by the time the vaccine is injected in MY body.

And they can’t assure me that either.

I had chickenpox TWICE. Once as a kid. And once a year and a half ago when I was exposed to someone who’d had the shingles vaccine and was NOT told they would be infectious for a week or more. If you get the shingles vaccine, be sure to isolate yourself for the infectious period post vax.

Dead baby products != good medicine

I’d rather have shingles than benefit from an abortion that’s older than *I* am. I fear eternal judgement more than neuralgia.

Other countries manage to produce rubella vaccines WITHOUT the use of dead babies. Why can’t we? We don’t even have a choice! Dead baby products or birth defects. Some choice.

Tell me the CDC cares about my health and well being again? Because they’re certainly NOT up front about the use of dead babies in vaccine cultures.


220 posted on 11/24/2012 8:14:33 PM PST by Black Agnes
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