Posted on 11/23/2012 8:27:43 PM PST by Catsrus
Here's a breakdown of how each county in Ohio voted in 2012. If it weren't for the most populace counties such as Franklin, Cuyahoga and Hamilton - Mitt would have won as would Josh Mandel.
Something needs to be done about these large counties winning states in the elections. Someone on here (don't remember who) suggested that the winner should be by who wins the most counties or to proportion the electoral votes accordingly.
Anyway, for those interested - here it is.
Since the 1960’s, Ohio’s legislative districts have been based on proportional representation rather than on the old state constitutional system. So there should not be such a wide disparity between who is elected to the legislature and who gets elected to statewide office. Aside from that, Ohio’s big cities have been hemorraging people for many years so that is another factor which weighs against your theory that black people form such a large voting block that they are magically able to trump Republican votes in statewide elections.
State IDs should contain a swiped code (like a credit card) that requires them to be swiped and may only be used once during an election, with all voter information being stores in a database.
Romney had the right idea in using cards for worker ID cards. This idea should be extended to include voter ID, as well.
This would be a beautiful thing in a number of states.
Oregon and Washington state would both be ideal candidates to have their electoral votes divided. Both are completely red with the exception of portions of the coast.
There are 16 congressional districts in Ohio and Republicans won 12 of the elections and Democrats won 4 of the elections. The votes for Democrats that ran for Congress in Ohio totaled 2,167,166 whereas the Republicans garnered 2,690,353 votes. In other words, the Republican candidates gained 500,000 more votes in the Congressional elections than did their Democrat counterparts.
When you compare the congressional elections to the Presidential election something strange happens. In the Ohio vote count, Obama got 500,000 more votes than did his Democrat congressional counterparts. Specifically, he garnered 2,695,125 votes while Romney had a slight dropoff off from Republican congressional candidates of 2,588,711. So what we are asked to believe is that almost 500,000 people voted for Obama as President but didn't vote for the Democrat congressman in their district. I would be very interested to hear non-fraud based theories which explain this discrepancy.
I have no doubt that fraud in Cleveland, Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, etc probably gave Obama an extra 20 to 30 thousand votes per state. But it wasn’t enough to allow Romney to win any of those states.
The problem is simple. In the urban cores, they do indeed vote 95 percent Dem because the Dems control the machines and the government spending. In the suburban and rural districts the R’s win but only by 60 to 70 percent margins because you have enough white govt. workers, public school teachers and liberal feminist mother types who vote D.
So now when you do a big statewide Presidential election, the 95 percent urban core overwhelms the 65 percent suburban vote despite what happens in the state legislative races.
And here is the MOST important point. It isn’t fraud that kills us but EARLY VOTING. All these new early voting rules allow the Dems to go from house to house and apartment to apartment to roust out their voters. In years past, before all this early voting, it was a logistical nightmare to get all those people to the polls on a single day. Now they have 2-5 weeks to do it.
Even 30 years ago, we always knew that if ALL the inner city people all got out to vote we’d be screwed in a statewide race based on simple numbers. Well, I think early voting now lets the Dems legitimately get out all the urban votes. It isn’t just fraud anymore.
I don’t think it is all fraud. I think these people are so dumb they only know to go in the booth and mark Obama. Then they are tired and want to get back on the bus for the free meal.
So what would have had to have happened is a bunch of Democrat voters were willing to punch their tickets for both the Democrat Presidential candidate and Democrat Senate candidate but then stopped punching their voting ticket after that. That seems very curious to me. Why would you stop at the Senate candidate? Why not continue down your voting ticket?
This all seems very strange that 500,000 additional votes get generated for Democrats running statewide that don't exist for their down-ticket candidates. And it is particularly curious that these votes appear to have come from cities which have been hemorrhaging voters for many years.
see my post above.
If a frog had wings................
If my aunt had balls she'd be................
We, in Illinois, have a governor who was elected by carrying 2 counties out of 102.
By the way, I was talking about the state house seats rather than the Congressional seats. But the same reasoning applies - which is that I find it hard to believe that Ohio Democrats are getting a legitimate 25% increase in statewide votes versus what their district by district candidates gets. And extending this out to Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania, I assert that the same thing is going on in those states - which is that Democrats up for statewide election are able to outpoll downticket candidates because of pervasive voter fraud.
I live in Franklin county and voted Romney,I know of serveral hundred that did the sane and only two Obama voters.
This election was rigged by SEIU.
No telling how many Romney votes ended up in dumpsters...
You want "populous."
Its kinda like Texas used to be, where Republicans consistently won 60% of the votes and yet only held 40% of the seats. Then Mr Delay made changes, and wound up convicted of cheating.
Cant win for losing.
I thought PA had voted a year or two ago to split their electoral vote. I guess I was mistaken, or the proposal did not pass. Obviously it would not have made the difference but at least it would have given Romney a few more EV’s.
“But Catholics voted for Obama in these states, it’s worse than the headline.”
According to what I have seen, Romney won the Catholic vote by nine points in both Ohio and Michigan. Pennsylvania and Florida were closer, but Romney still won the Catholic vote as far as I can tell in those states. Have you seen something different?
“And they bitch about contraceptives.”
How dare they.
FReegards
When I added up the House votes I got this:
D votes:
125030+131256+188831+110085+131575+140648+133686+329+206763+124079+243387+129251+227076+127467+123201+165638
total: 2308302
R votes:
196783+189400+74938+178604+191892+161095+174836+239221+66844+202166+0+227059+86269+179704+199598+181137
total: 2549546
In Boehner's largest county, Butler:
Romney, Mitt (R) 102,226
Obama, Barack (D) 59,282
Boehner, John (R) 117,559
Condit, James (WI) 106
In Cuyahoga
Obama, Barack (D) 420,953
Romney, Mitt (R) 184,475
Fudge, Marcia (D) 210,921
The difference is the Cuyahoga voters not bothering to pull the lever for their unopposed candidate Fudge. Boehner had no real opponent, but he still picked up at least 15k D votes in Butler county.
I took your theory and ran with it that black votes were piled up in city districts by evil Republican gerrymandering
I never said it was evil. It is what it is. If we didn't have that we would not control the House. It probably results in more RINO reps by diluting the R vote and the D vote for Boehner points out the problems with a too-powerful speaker of the house.
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