Your replies again show your lack of a reasoned argument. It is difficult to accept truth, when all you know is what you learned in Sunday School, and grew up with the horrible thought of excommunication, should you think for yourself. Your church even withheld the Scriptures from the common parishioner until forced in the last century, preferring the Latin Vulgate over the lingua franca.
I'm apparently the ONLY grownup in this conversation... and I'm trying patiently to be a guide. As for being paddled, you continue to show your puerile streak and lack of intellectual response!
Romans 8: 31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:
“For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”
37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.