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1 posted on 11/22/2012 5:38:06 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

We already know what went wrong. The media and Obama convinced the youth, women, and minorities that the GOP hates them .... and they fell for it. Other wrongs ... voter fraud, Romney not calling out Obama on his lie about ending the Iraq war, the media ignoring the Libya incident ... among other things.


2 posted on 11/22/2012 5:47:15 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Steelfish
Blah blah woof woof...don’t run RINOs.
3 posted on 11/22/2012 5:48:06 PM PST by Happy Rain ("11/6/2012=Suffrage for the selfish and shiftless has damned America to socialist perdition.")
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The GOP had another problem. Akin’s “legitimate rape” comment and “Rev.” Mourdock taking it upon himself to preach on God’s will did nothing to help with another demographic group.


4 posted on 11/22/2012 5:48:56 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Steelfish
Populations have grown in the last four years but registrations have lagged.

Now about what Obama's peeps did ~ apparently very little. They had 69 million voters in 2008 ~ and they proceeded to lose about 10% of them in this election!

THAT IS A HUGE NUMBER!

Although a major loss like that wasn't a surprise to Conservative Republicans, the political model believed by the GOP-e simply couldn't deal with it.

Let me remind folks that Conservative Republicans told the GOP-e that it was time for a Conservative to run ~ not the hapless Mitt Romney whose performance in primaries and caucuses, and public standing polls hadn't improved in the 7 years overwhich he'd been campaigning.

It was time for a change, not more of the same, and with the Democrats getting ready to go belly-up, we needed someone who would secure our political positions throughout the Constitutional offices.

We weren't listened to; GOP-e gained an iron grip on the campaign fund sources; and the party flamed out ~ Mitt not only lost (with his vote totals not keeping up with simple population growth since McCain's run) he took down 23 senate seats!

6 posted on 11/22/2012 5:53:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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Poll: Evangelical Vote at Record High in Election

Wednesday, 07 Nov 2012

Evangelical voters reached a record high in Tuesday’s election, with 78 percent of white evangelicals supporting Republican Mitt Romney, a national survey has found.

The survey of 800 voters commissioned by the Faith and Freedom Coalition found that a record 27 percent of those who voted in the presidential election were evangelicals.

Romney’s 78 percent showing among white evangelicals was 10 points higher than Arizona Sen. John McCain’s in 2008.

“Evangelicals turned out in record numbers and voted as heavily for Mitt Romney yesterday as they did for George W. Bush in 2004,” said Ralph Reed, chairman of TK-based Faith and Freedom Coalition.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/romney-evangelical-vote-obama/2012/11/07/id/463268

8 posted on 11/22/2012 6:00:34 PM PST by Ken H
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THe biggest problem the GOP had in 2012 was Barack Obama - black, young, and cool - that and the ‘rats super GOTV machine about maxed the vote of the young and minorities who’ve been voting for Democrats for years - but in much lower numbers - their turnouts will drop significantly when ‘rats return to running another old white guy, or even white gal, or maybe even minority, since the magic of underdog voting for the first time will be gone.......


11 posted on 11/22/2012 6:20:36 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Steelfish

Obama convinced enough democrats to vote for him and Romney convinced enough republicans to stay home.


14 posted on 11/22/2012 6:35:53 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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“The Republican Party made an agreement 30 years ago with the Democrat Party NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud.”

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/11/why-gop-wont-challenge-vote-fraud.html

“PolitiJim writes for Gulag Bound, November 13, 2012, that during the weekly True the Vote webcast, Catherine Engelbrecht related a meeting she had with Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee (RNC), asking what the GOP would do about voter integrity. The answer?
Nothing. They aren’t legally able to.”

“Since 1982, that Consent Decree has been renewed every year by the original judge, Carter appointee District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise, now 88 years old. Long retired, Debevoise comes backyearly for the sole purpose of renewing his 1982 order for another year.”


15 posted on 11/22/2012 6:38:54 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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In making these 2008 vs. 2012 comparisons, what gets me is that McCain had just about EVERYTHING going against him... an electorate absolutely sick of Bush and the GOP brand, a massive virtually-unprecedented economic collapse, and the tide-of-history wave promoting the first black president, further imprinted by the media as the epitome of ‘coolness.’

Romney, by comparison, actually had many things going for him; so much ammo to use... a wretched economy, high unemployment, Obama’s bowing-to-enemies foreign policy, outrageous scandals involving government malfeasance (Solyndra, etc.) or a hundred murdered Mexicans (Fast and Furious), the US losing its triple-A rating, etc., etc.,

I mean, good grief! Romney had so many more advantages! Yet to come out with either less or virtually the same number of votes as McCain?


16 posted on 11/22/2012 6:40:04 PM PST by greene66
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Here’s where the GOP went wrong - they pushed a lacluster candidate like Romney using one of the stupidest approaches ever - “He’s electable”. Clearly, he wasn’t.

There were many excellent choices early in the campaign but, too many Republicans voted for Romney (because “he’s electable”), instead of the candidate that they REALLY wanted to support.

So, since Romney was “so electable”, why isn’t he president-elect Romney today?


17 posted on 11/22/2012 6:48:43 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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Using the sources below, I come up with 25.8M evangelical votes for Romney, 25.2M for McCain, and 21.9M for Bush in 2004.

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AjYj9mXElO_QdHpla01oWE1jOFZRbnhJZkZpVFNKeVE&toomany=true

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-exit-poll

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008-exit-poll

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32793-2004Nov7.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2004

21 posted on 11/22/2012 7:10:49 PM PST by Ken H
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2012 Election RINO File.


24 posted on 11/22/2012 7:18:11 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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The greatest opportunity for the Republicans lies in suppression of the union vote. That’s going to happen, as public employee unions are going to find austerity measures at all levels of government are going to undermine their solidarity with other groups in the Democrat identity politics coalition. Federal workers are already moaning about their lack of COLA raises, etc. I don’t know the details on the Michigan vote , but the headline is that it was a big loss for the unions despite Obama’s win there. “Where are they going to go? To the Republicans?” Nope, just back to bed.


25 posted on 11/22/2012 7:48:59 PM PST by gusopol3
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If Republicans bend over and vote to deliver the
“holy grail” amnesty, that Hispanics have been demanding,
it will be a big mistake.

Hispanics will smile sweetly, say “Gracia’s”, and then go
vote 71%, in 2016, for another Democrat president.

And Rubio won’t fix that.


32 posted on 11/22/2012 9:47:41 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: Steelfish; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”Because what ought to scare the GOP is this: Even with higher GOP turnout in key states, even with Mr. Obama shedding voters, Democrats still won. Mr. Obama accomplished this by tapping new minority voters in numbers that beat even Mr. Romney's better turnout.
In Florida, 238,000 more Hispanics voted than in 2008, and Mr. Obama got 60% of Hispanic voters. His total margin of victory in Florida was 78,000 votes, so that demographic alone won it for him. Or consider Ohio, where Mr. Romney won independents by 10 points. The lead mattered little, though, given that black turnout increased by 178,000 votes, and the president won 96% of the black vote. Mr. Obama’s margin of victory there was 103,000.
This is the demographic argument that is getting so much attention, and properly so. The Republican Party can hope that a future Democratic candidate won't equal Mr. Obama’s magnetism for minority voters. But the GOP would do far better by fighting aggressively for a piece of the minority electorate.
And that, for the record, was the GOP’s real 2012 turnout disaster. Elections are about the candidate and the message, yes, but also about the ground game. Republicans right now are fretting about Mr. Romney's failures and the party's immigration platform—that's fair enough. But equally important has been the party's mind-boggling failure to institute a competitive Hispanic ground game. The GOP doesn't campaign in those communities, doesn't register voters there, doesn't knock on doors. So while pre-election polling showed that Hispanics were worried about Obama policies, in the end the only campaign that these voters heard from—by email at their door, on the phone—was the president's”

Summary : Obama got out the minority vote. Romney assumed that he could win with a simple majority of the white vote alone, something the electoral map shows will not be possible any longer for POTUS. Republicans have no strategy to get any of these other voters or at least keeping them from voting D.

I posted this problem many times before this election.

41 posted on 11/23/2012 4:48:51 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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Isn’t the Wall St Journal,one of those propaganda organs responsible for contributing to the mess we’re in? While the GOP-e might want their advice, and even take it, I doubt there’s much good or use in it for Flyover Country.


42 posted on 11/23/2012 4:55:30 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Steelfish; All

The GOP can forget winning the Presidency if they adopt liberal strategies like Illegal Alien Amnesty...Pandering for Hispanic Voters....and running a Amnesty Liberal like Marco Rubio

For every 1% of the white vote the GOP gets....they will need about 9% of the Hispanic vote to match that. Going after the white vote with solid conservative ideas and principles...and not pandering to ethnics....will win elections


44 posted on 11/23/2012 5:29:14 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Marco Rubio is not a Conservative. "Amnesty Liberals" are never Conservative)
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