The story says he takes this 5 mile walk along the same route every day. He lives a few blocks away.
It would be hard to convince me that he has not encountered these same two dogs before. This day he took his pistol with him, and shot one of them.
I feel the shooting was intentional.
Now we do not know the circumstances.
1. Was he bitten before?
2. Did he ask the man who owns th dogs to keep them penned?
3. Why couldn’t he change his daily route so as to not meet these dogs?
4. Did the dog owner deliberately turn the dogs loose on this man?
>>This day he took his pistol with him, and shot one of them.
Where did you read that he only carried the gun on “this day”? He might carry a gun every day.
Also, a human should not have to change his daily route to avoid uncontrolled aggressive dogs. Talking to the owner is useless in most cases because all you get is the old “awww, these dogs wouldn’t hurt a fly!” response. Or you might get an angrier response and wind up having to shoot the owner.
Calling Animal Control us useless too. If they even show up, they’ll tell the owner to restrain his dogs and he’ll say that he will...and he won’t do it after they’re gone.
This is Florida and we don’t have an obligation to retreat from a human attacker, so a large attacking dog certainly gets shot.
The original story says that there was a witness who saw the dogs charging Gross. The witness said the dog that was shot was about a foot away from where Gross was standing when it was shot.
A foot is much to close to large dog that is acting very aggressively.
1. Irrelevant
2. Not his responsibility
3. Why can't he assume he can walk on public land where ever he damn well pleases.
4. Is he supposed to figure that out while being mauled? ABSURD!
BANG! BANG! End of story. . .He was well within his rights to defend himself against two aggressive dogs that were charging him.
I have 3 labrador retrievers. A nice fellow walks every day in my neighborhood, swinging a cane. I keep my dogs inside, unless they go to their fenced yard in the back.... But every day when he passes by, they are jumping at the window, like they are wanting to get outside and tear this guy a new orifice. I keep my dogs contained. They bark. He goes by. All is well. He carries his cane, not because he needs it to walk, but because he might need it to protect himself. He too, probably carries a fire-arm in his fanny-pack. Good for him. I love my dogs, I also know that idiots turn their dogs out, without a second thought. Whether lab or pit bull.... If you love your dogs, keep them contained and away from those who may be bearing arms and potentially fearing for their life.
Now we do not know the circumstances.
1. Was he bitten before?
2. Did he ask the man who owns the dogs to keep them penned?
3. Why couldn’t he change his daily route so as to not meet these dogs?
1. what does it matter if he was bitten or not?
2. How the hell is he supposed to know who owns the dogs. Better yet, can he make it to his front porch with 2 dogs hanging on his legs?
3. Change his route huh? Here is your liberal entry into the world of LaLa. Why should he have to change his route? To ignore the problem and let some other person get bit by these dogs while he did nothing about the problem?
4. Your reply to this statement was simply stupid. Don’t you think the man who shot the dogs would have mentioned that?
In summary: You are a true liberal. Rather than to solve the problem you believe you should solve the result of the problem and let the cause of the problem continue time after time after time.
The fact is that the man shot the dog and solved the problem. In addition that, he saved himself from possible harm and worse yet...death.
And of course your question isn't appropriate.
I have found that owners of large, aggressive dogs are often arrogant and entitled. We had a neighbor across the street and one house over who did not care if his dogs got out. I had the dog attack me when I went out to get our mail and run after my toddler in our own front yard. Fortunately, my children were not hurt.
I confronted the owner several times as well as his teenaged son who did not care whether the gate was closed when he left in the morning. They asked what we were doing to antagonize the dogs, what my child did to aggravate it, etc.
The problem was solved when I showed up when all family members were present. I informed the whole family (parents and teenagers) that their dog had gotten out, come to my home and tried to bite my child on my property. The next time I saw it outside their yard and not on a leash, I would shoot it, because it would promptly cross the street and try to attack us as being on “its” property.
The son tried to say it just got out and sniffed around. I explained to the parents it had come into my yard twice, nearly bit my toddler twice, on my yard, after seeing us from its front yard and running over. Then I reiterated, the next time it is outside of your yard and not on a leash, I will shoot it in defense of my family. They tried to argue. “I’m willing to kill an animal to protect my young child. If you do not like that, that is the fault of your child for failing to control the animal. And after I shoot it, I will call the police to say your negligence threatened the life of MY children.” The son asked what I’d do if there was a person just showed up in my home. I said I’d shoot a human intruder in defense of my family even faster, but was giving them one last chance to control the animal. Then I left.
The next day, there were boards up on the holes and gates of the fence. The son now only parked in the driveway, not in the garage where he had to open the driveway gate and the dog would wander out. After the absolute threat of killing the animal, after explaining our clear and present danger, they were willing to fix the problem.
Talking to the teenager, the mother separately and the father politely did no good. They said I exaggerated, heard each other’s minimization of my statements or criticized me for letting my child in the front yard (though I was right there with them).
Only the threat of a dead animal and police intervention (after dead animal) was enough to provoke action.
I don't think you can generalize here that the dog was necessarily not at fault.
I don't feel much, I prefer thinking, and I think you should Google "dog attack injuries", and select "images" should you want to "feel".
I'll even do it for ya Here
Then we can think about how many seconds it takes a dog to inflict these injuries.