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Man shoots and kills charging dog in Charlotte County(FL)
fox4now.com ^ | 21 November, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 11/22/2012 4:50:18 AM PST by marktwain

GULF COVE, Fla. - A man out on a walk Tuesday morning came face to face with two charging dogs in Gulf Coast. He shot and killed one of the dogs.

A witness told deputies he saw the entire incident in the area of Gillot Boulevard and Holton Terrace.

Deputies met with Frank Gross, 63, who lives several blocks away on Flemming Street. He advised he was out for his usual five-mile walk along the same route he takes every day. He said two large Boxer dogs were let out of the home at 5403 Holton Terrace and were not on leashes. Gross said he was across the street and the two dogs came charging towards him. He said he yelled for the dogs to get back, but they kept coming. Fearing for his safety, Gross told deputies he reached into his fanny pack and withdrew a .22 caliber pistol and fired one shot killing one of the dogs; the second dog fled.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Slambat

congratulations on having the time to meet every boxer in the country and make such a comment...


61 posted on 11/22/2012 11:40:56 AM PST by goat granny
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To: Venturer
......Only my opinion that he set out that morning with intent.......

Nice to know we have you as our resident psychic..do you charge for being psychic?

62 posted on 11/22/2012 11:50:14 AM PST by goat granny
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To: goat granny

If you wish an appointment it can be arranged, but bring cash.


63 posted on 11/22/2012 11:54:20 AM PST by Venturer
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To: rolling_stone

“...the sound of a shotgun slide being racked...”

I’ve “brought several people to Jesus”, myself, with that sound.


64 posted on 11/22/2012 11:58:51 AM PST by Carriage Hill (America - a great idea while it lasted.)
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To: Valpal1

From another source: “Deputies met with the owner Michael Bustamante, 28, who confirmed he let “Astro” a 2½ year old 65-pound boxer...”

It was the 65 pound dog he shot ONCE with a .22. Do you seriously believe he shot at running 65 pound dog and killed it with a single shot with a .22?


65 posted on 11/22/2012 12:13:44 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: driftdiver
Man shoots and kills charging dog in Charlotte County(FL)

If he is a cop on duty, we hate him.

If he's just a gun owner, we love him.

Which is it?

66 posted on 11/22/2012 12:45:04 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna

Again where was it stated that the shooter entered the dog owners property.


67 posted on 11/22/2012 1:21:13 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: raybbr; All
Do you seriously believe he shot at running 65 pound dog and killed it with a single shot with a .22?

Shooting at a large animal coming right at you when it is very close is not that hard. Very often these dog attacks consist of a lot of lunging and snapping in and out. It seems likely that the dog was close and moving at him, momentarily stopped at the end of a lunge, or starting to move back, but still very close.

If that the were the case, pointing and shooting at the very close and threatening dog would not be that hard.

In addition, if he had missed, the story would probably not have made the news.

68 posted on 11/22/2012 1:53:33 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Klemper

“A nice fellow walks every day in my neighborhood, swinging a cane. I keep my dogs inside.....”

Is it just this guy they go bonkers over? If so, you may be the next guy on the news saying, “He semed like such a nice old guy. I’d have never known he had the bodies of twenty teenaged victims stuffed in his crawlspace.”

Dogs know, my friend.

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69 posted on 11/22/2012 3:42:43 PM PST by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: raybbr

Uh, yes, I do, especially since it was charging or running directly at him, running toward the bullet so to speak and was only a foot or so away at the time of firing.

You are making assumptions about his level of gun competence with no facts. Also, successfully shooting an attacker is not evidence of intent.


70 posted on 11/22/2012 3:49:15 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: marktwain

Was it an off-duty cop?


71 posted on 11/22/2012 3:54:31 PM PST by Lazamataz (Islam is a religious form of Nazism.)
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To: bert
The dogs were coming to lick him
Over exuberant killing
No. From the article:

two large Boxer dogs were let out of the home at 5403 Holton Terrace and were not on leashes.

They were released to attack, and they did. The owner should be hanged (after a fair trial, of course).

72 posted on 11/22/2012 4:02:00 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn
They were released to attack

And you know that how????

73 posted on 11/22/2012 5:36:59 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: driftdiver

You did.


74 posted on 11/22/2012 6:05:31 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: meadsjn
They were released to attack, and they did.

I have been around Boxers my whole life(I'm 57) and have yet to see an aggressive dog. It is not their nature. Talk to meter readers and postmen as I have and you will get facts. Right now I have a 55 lb Boxer laying across my left foot as I type this. If you were to come to my front gate, he would sprint there so his new friend could pet and love on him.
75 posted on 11/22/2012 6:08:20 PM PST by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: donna

No you are the one introducing a strawman into this thread.

Big difference between someone shooting in self-defense and someone shooting just because they can.


76 posted on 11/22/2012 6:24:33 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: goat granny

“congratulations on having the time to meet every boxer in the country and make such a comment... (sarc)”
There. Fixed it fore you.


77 posted on 11/22/2012 7:01:15 PM PST by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: Uncle Chip
In other words yes the dogs had charged him but they stopped when they got close to him. That's when he shot him, I'll bet, when they had stopped short of him as most dogs do.

Nowhere does the article say that the dogs stopped short. It only says that he shot one dog when it was about a foot away from him. Where did you get the idea that these dogs stopped short?

In fact, the article specifically says the exact opposite of what you're claiming happened:

Gross said he was across the street and the two dogs came charging towards him. He said he yelled for the dogs to get back, but they kept coming. Fearing for his safety, Gross told deputies he reached into his fanny pack and withdrew a .22 caliber pistol and fired one shot killing one of the dogs; the second dog fled.

Deputies met with the owner Michael Bustamante, 28, who confirmed he let “Astro” a 2½ year old 65-pound boxer, and “Libby” a 4-year old 60 pound boxer, outside without leashes to “do their business in the yard.” Bustamante, who was visibly upset, said his dogs often wandered from the yard but were friendly and would never attack or hurt anyone. Deputies talked to a witness who said he saw the dogs charging across the street towards the man and saw him pull out a gun and shoot at the dogs that were barking and charging at him. The dog (Astro) was about a foot away from where Gross was standing when shot.

Naturally, we should ignore the eyewitness who says the dogs where barking and charging at Gross and believe the irresponsible dog owner who lets his dogs out unleashed and unsupervised.

Bottom line is that if you don't want your dogs to get shot, keep them under control at all times. It's really as simple as that.

78 posted on 11/22/2012 7:13:05 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: raybbr
It was the 65 pound dog he shot ONCE with a .22. Do you seriously believe he shot at running 65 pound dog and killed it with a single shot with a .22?

Sure, why not? As always, shot placement matters more than caliber.

But, let's not forget that the dogs' owners admitted he frequently turned his dogs out, unleashed and unsupervised. That's just asking for someone to shoot your dog(s).

79 posted on 11/22/2012 7:23:12 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: jy8z
If you were to come to my front gate, he would sprint there so his new friend could pet and love on him.

How would a stranger know that your dog wasn't charging to attack?

80 posted on 11/22/2012 7:27:24 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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