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Shamed Facebook poster loses her job
Boston Herald ^ | November 21, 2012 | Jessica Heslam

Posted on 11/21/2012 8:20:46 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

Lindsey Stone — the Plymouth woman taking an online beating for posting a photo of herself flipping the bird at Arlington National Cemetery on Facebook — has lost her job.

“Lindsey resigned and we accepted her resignation,” LIFE Inc. CEO Diane Enochs told the Herald tonight.

LIFE Inc. of Hyannis — a Cape Cod nonprofit that helps adults with special needs — announced tonight that Stone, along with the woman who snapped the offending photo, are not working there.

Ironically, the formal announcement was made on Facebook.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: amygdala; arlington; cemetery; facebook; facebookisthedevil; fired; lefty; lindseystone; stone; vets
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To: Jim Noble

The problem with Facebook is that as a hiring manager, or admissions committees, there are certain things that you are not allowed to ask about candidates, but that candidates “proudly” display on FB, and once having seen that information, you can’t un-see it, therefore if you decline to hire, and or admit a candidate you want to make sure that the reason given for declination, is not one that will come back to haunt you.

The EEOC is already salivating at the chance to get into court a case that is based on denial of hiring/admission based on Facebook postings. Heck they are already telling people that you should not be asking if anyone has a criminal conviction (of whatever stripe) and denying employment based on that, as a large percentage of a particular “protected class” has convictions and could possibly be denied employment...etc...etc...etc....

It made my head hurt at the last training I attended on the topic.


101 posted on 11/22/2012 8:04:22 AM PST by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: calex59

“how does this action result in her being fired?”

If an employee’s behavior embarrasses an entity and may cause harm to its success, I would think termination would be legal and appropriate. Or the ACLU will most likely step in and cause a ruckus. Of course, it’s Christmas, and ACLU’s busy time of the year — the jerks.


102 posted on 11/22/2012 8:12:48 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: visualops
How can you be so incredibly obtuse as to not realize people would be deeply offended?

Because the only people she associates with are radical Leftists who would approve of her stunt.

Leftists, and particularly women leftists, tend to associate with people who never disagree with their politics, except to argue for an even more Leftist position.

103 posted on 11/22/2012 8:13:53 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: verga

But what if the applicant says “No, it’s my personal site and my personal business.”?


104 posted on 11/22/2012 8:16:11 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Jim Noble

I’ve no doubt. I don’t put anything on FB that I wouldn’t mind my mother seeing. However, my question is what if the applicant has the privacy settings cranked up on their FB page and refuses to allow the interviewer access to it? Is that a red flag or is that merely someone maintaining a modicum of privacy in today’s world?


105 posted on 11/22/2012 8:20:13 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Bet the president calls her..you heard it here first.
106 posted on 11/22/2012 8:20:13 AM PST by GregB (There is a whole lot of stupid out there. prisoner6!)
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To: Future Snake Eater
However, my question is what if the applicant has the privacy settings cranked up on their FB page and refuses to allow the interviewer access to it?

I find someone else.

107 posted on 11/22/2012 8:25:47 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: calex59
While I think the actions of this person are reprehensible, how does this action result in her being fired? I thought we were about freedom, and that includes the freedom to make fun of whatever we so choose, even if the majority doesn't agree.

She has the right to her opinions. And her employer has an equal right to not want his company associated with her stupid opinions.

If I was her boss, I would have done the same.

You think you would not lose your position at your company if a picture of you wearing a KKK outfit and holding a noose in front of the MLK memorial was making its rounds on the Net? Especially if people were calling your company to vent their upset?

108 posted on 11/22/2012 8:26:03 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Jim Noble

So by that rationale, the very existence of a FB account means that anyone/everyone should have access to it, regardless of the person’s wishes?


109 posted on 11/22/2012 8:34:30 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

The key point is understanding that whatever you put out on the internet is going into the “public square”, and that no matter what settings you put on it, someone else can still forward it, refer to it, tell someone about it, etc.

The “e” in electronic also stands for “eternal”, “evidence”, and “everyone”.

By your screen name “Future Snake Eater”, I assume you have intentions of going in the military. I will tell you from personal observation that soldiers do get prosecuted for stupid stuff they put up on FB, Twitter, etc.

If there is anyone in the world you don’t want to see something, exercise a little self-control and don’t post it.


110 posted on 11/22/2012 8:44:58 AM PST by AbnSarge
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To: Future Snake Eater
So by that rationale, the very existence of a FB account means that anyone/everyone should have access to it, regardless of the person’s wishes?

No. But people who are seen as being open about their Internet presence gain points in their favor from job interviewers.

Similarly, you are perfectly free to show up at your next job interview wearing a ripped t-shirt and dirty jeans. It's entirely your right to do so.

It's like I keep telling my kids, now that they are old enough to be going to job interviews: you have a right to be stupid, and the employer has a right to not want to hire idiots.

111 posted on 11/22/2012 8:55:14 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: AbnSarge; Future Snake Eater
The key point is understanding that whatever you put out on the internet is going into the “public square”, and that no matter what settings you put on it, someone else can still forward it, refer to it, tell someone about it, etc.

Like I tell my kids: all it takes is ONE person in your circle of "friends" to decide to forward a pic or posting of you to somebody outside your "privacy" wall, and it's thereafter "loose in the wild". If it gets into the hands of people who don't like you, or who don't like your opinion, then it WILL get forwarded to your employer, school, etc.

In the world of the Internet, the ONLY private information is that which never leaves the insides of your skull.

On FR, I occasionally post controversial opinions. I consequently try to avoid posting info that would link my online persona to my real-world identity. My wife knows I post to FR, but I don't even tell HER my FR identity.

112 posted on 11/22/2012 9:04:38 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Not everyone.

Someone who you want to represent in exchange for their money? Someone who evaluates your suitability for others well-being or safety?

Absolutely.


113 posted on 11/22/2012 9:07:16 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Jim Noble

It just sounds a like a “guilty until proven innocent” kind of thing. Maybe that’s now the world we live in, but I still don’t like it.


114 posted on 11/22/2012 9:25:01 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Vaquero

I agree that ‘progressive’ “authority” should be challenged continually.

With her “in general” she takes it as a hobby to show how “rebellious” she is. Maybe she should get more focus and sign up for OWS. Then she could give the finger and yell at people all day.


115 posted on 11/22/2012 10:03:00 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Then he thanks them for their time and finds an applicant more suited to the image the company wants to project.

Keep in mind that this is only one part of the criteria he uses. Generally there will be several other "red flags" that pop up ie KMD tattooed on the knuckles of both hands.

116 posted on 11/22/2012 10:10:48 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Difference between questioning authority and insulting those who gave all. But it should not be a law. Freedom of speech is too precious to regulate.


117 posted on 11/22/2012 12:08:44 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Revolting cat!
Epic Crying Guy
118 posted on 11/22/2012 12:20:15 PM PST by Lazamataz (Mankind must be extinguished. We are a pox on the universe.)
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To: All

Dang some of you folks are killing me; it’s like you’re hoping for a federal case here.

I believe everyone should be able to say what they please. If those acts are public in any manner, I believe everyone should be able to comment as they see fit.

That carries over to employers. If an employer sees an act he believes does not fit the image of his company, or if he just plain doesn’t like it, I believe he should be able to comment...which includes firing/not hiring the actor.

What we need is for folks to take responsibility for their actions, show a little respect, and for .gov to get the heck out of the way.


119 posted on 11/22/2012 6:10:07 PM PST by Backstop73 (Always reading, seldom posting.)
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To: Vaquero

Agree on all points.


120 posted on 11/22/2012 7:42:14 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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