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Goodbye Miss American Pie!

Reduce the number of federal employees in all departments by not less than one-third. This year. Next year, another one-third. Reduce the salaries of all government employees, including the President and Congress, to the average for the American workers. We should want it fair and balanced since that is the cry the Democrats use repeatedly. Let's force the central socialist government to follow their lead . . .

We now have a government that's easy to hate!

1 posted on 11/21/2012 7:43:41 AM PST by IbJensen
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The Federal Salary Council, an advisory body of academics and leaders of public employee unions, suggested last month that federal workers are underpaid by an average of 35 percent relative to nonfederal employees.

As a federal employee ... I know that is BS. I am an engineer who worked for a defense contractor for 20 years before moving to the government.

I make less now, but nowhere near 35% less ...

2 posted on 11/21/2012 7:59:35 AM PST by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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The federal retirement from 1984 forward sucks! I don’t know why people think it is so great. Federal Government is working tomorrow ALL Day. Most private businesses are off. Most private businesses are giving great Christmas Parties and bonus’. Not the federal government.


5 posted on 11/21/2012 8:08:28 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: IbJensen

As a government employee, I can tell you that people don’t work here for the money. They work for the benefits. The biggest benefit is the reluctance of the government to get rid of you after 50.

Also people want more government workers. They want more people working in the DMV and Social Security and Medicare and etc etc. They just want them to work for free. Or get their dead azz off STD/LTD and go back to work.


10 posted on 11/21/2012 8:30:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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This salary stuff is the wrong, and to be blunt stupid, discussion to be having

What we should be talking about are things like getting the Gvt to move away from the GS scale (with it’s automatic step increases) and into a pay for performance structure. And eliminating waste from unneeded, redundant positions. Then loosening up the laws that prevent poorly performing Federal workers from being easily fired. And finally reforming the hiring process so that the best qualified candidates get the jobs.

Arguing about salary is nothing more than a distraction. Especially since the salary numbers are dwarfed by the inefficiencies caused by not addressing the points above.


16 posted on 11/21/2012 8:43:41 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: IbJensen

Hell yes! keep cutting their salaries until they are like the rest of us.


23 posted on 11/21/2012 9:23:06 AM PST by ully2
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My Father once told me that the only job you can complain about is the one you took because you had a gun to your head.

What was the line from the Godfather? Either your signature or your brains will be on that contract.

If anyone doesn’t like their Job, they can quit and find another one without retribution.


26 posted on 11/21/2012 9:44:07 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (As the Chinese say, erections have consequences...)
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This thread is a mirror of the nation we live in: nearly as many posts by government workers as by those who pay for the government.

Many of us remember that when we were young we might see, during the course of a day, a postal worker, a cop, some teachers and a county road grader or snowplow driver...that was government for us and we were grateful for it.

Those workers saw themselves as public servants and we were glad that they (and of course ALL military personnel) were on the job.

Nowadays I can’t turn around but to encounter an imperious tax assessor, tax collector, building inspector, fee collector, councilman, commissioner, regulator, permitter, faculty member, government union boss, designated government protected identity group member (or his or her lawyer), etc. etc. etc.

Those who are paying the tax bill are now also somehow working FOR those who collect and spend the proceeds. And they not only tell me what to do and how much it will cost me for the privilege, many of them also seem to despise me for trying to do anything at all.

Furthermore, as can be seen in this thread, they also wish to make clear just how damn tough they have it, apparently because of ingrates like me.


39 posted on 11/21/2012 11:39:13 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: IbJensen
Good post. Thanks for that and enticing revealing comments to the thread. There are men who served in far more difficult ways (in combat specialties). Many of them drive to work to wait for daily jobs at hard labor and are often not paid at all for their transportation costs, showing up early and wasting their time at their employers' (thieves) commands. They're derided and defamed by socialist political folks on all sides--political folks who hate traditional family structure and love animals while hating people. The following are very related.

America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print

The Fragmenting of the New Class Elites, or, Downward Mobility
http://volokh.com/2011/10/31/the-fragmenting-of-the-new-class-elites-or-downward-mobility/

Environmentalism and the Leisure Class
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835601/posts

The New Upper Class and the Real Reason We Dislike Them
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843575/posts

Are you a member of the political class?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/are_you_a_member_of_the_politi.html

Government Workers: From Public Servants to Masters
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2340226/posts

Maybe the default process, when completed, will make way for rebuilding and a renewal of the real America.


52 posted on 11/21/2012 5:04:44 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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“Morning Bell: Should We Pay Government Employees More?”

Better question: Should taxpayers, who had their children’s treasure stolen at the point of a gun so fat-ass bureaucrats could holiday at a French chateau, be taking their treasure back?


53 posted on 11/21/2012 5:10:50 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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