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To: itsahoot
Go over to YouTube and type in vote fraud, or voting machines hacked, and educate yourself.

You sound EXACTLY like Democrats after their 2002 midterm and 2004 presidential election losses. This is what they attributed their defeats to. In fact, it spawned all sorts of nutty conspiracy sites like BlackBoxVoting (most run by frauds). If you visited a liberal forum at that time almost all they could talk about was how Diebold electronic voting machines were being hacked by rich Republicans. They simply could not accept they were losing elections. Now, sadly, I am seeing some of the same thing here and in other conservative circles. People simply do not want to accept that the majority are simply not with us at the moment.

61 posted on 11/20/2012 1:03:56 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

True stories, but what should this last point you made so well tell us all?

Clearly we need some kind of separation, we should be far enough along in history at this point to mutual agree to split without massive bloodshed.

This “shrinking” or localization of nations has been happening out in the open all over the world, we are just a bit behind.

There are no legitimate objections to separation. If peoples do not want to voluntarily enter into mutual agreements with one another on large scale, and there is enough geographic room (Which we have plenty of) then there should be a change made.

And secession doesn’t do it alone. Why would any potential split have to be by state? That makes no sense, there could be plenty of red and blue counties (Except perhaps the blue islands like Dallas) that could join other states, etc.

It would have to be a long mediation, and agreement, but it is not impossible.

There just has to be enough leverage on both ends where no one thinks they have a path via violence to outright deny the other. Compared to all the other places in the world this is happening, we are in a better position- we are armed civilians.

Finally, all it would really take to get things going is massive sustained protesting (just like the libs do). There are PLENTY of “Reds” where it would be overwhelming and would force a legitimate response from DC.


84 posted on 11/20/2012 7:38:48 PM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Let's settle somewhere new?~ I'm thinking places people call "blue".)
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