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Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants
CNET ^ | |November 20, 2012 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 11/20/2012 7:34:40 AM PST by Cheerio

Proposed law scheduled for a vote next week originally increased Americans' e-mail privacy. Then law enforcement complained. Now it increases government access to e-mail and other digital files.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.cnet.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; bighollywood; copyrightlaw; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; donutwatch; doublestandard; fascism; hollywoodvalues; homelandsecurity; hr2471; leakyleahy; mediacomplex; nationalistsecurity; patrickleahy; policestate; reid; senate; snailmailrules; snooping; traitor; waronamericans; waronconstitution; wiretapping
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To: madison10
The House has to approve this, correct? Can they stop it? Will they even try?

Looking at both parties' shredding of the Constitution in the name of "national security" since 9/11, of course they will not try.

And here we are at FR, wailing & moaning over & over about Obamacare (which, for the record, does suck). But, we're mostly silent on far worse dangers to the Bill of Rights and society in general.

21 posted on 11/20/2012 8:34:53 AM PST by gdani
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To: Cheerio

If Bush were president the hypocritical outrage would never stop. But there’s a marxist in the white house. Not a word from the left because they approve of this.


22 posted on 11/20/2012 8:37:11 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Spunky

For the technologically impaired, cnet is probably THE leading internet site for popularized computer and internet technology.

And yes, they are leftist MSM, leaving out many important facts.


23 posted on 11/20/2012 8:39:06 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Cheerio

My very thoughts exactly.


24 posted on 11/20/2012 8:40:59 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: gdani
The Government already captures & stores all of our emails, texts, phone calls & electronic purchases with plans to increase their capabilities --

Exactly. This bill will only legalize what they are already doing. The only time that privacy is a right is when it comes to abortion.

25 posted on 11/20/2012 8:47:11 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Cheerio

So when does that “protect and defend the Constitution of the United States” part of their oath supposed to kick in?


26 posted on 11/20/2012 8:47:11 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Cheerio

Anyone that would send anything by email and expect the government NOT to already be reading it is naive.


27 posted on 11/20/2012 8:48:51 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Cheerio

To be used by the DNC to eliminate conservative candidates in the primaries...

FULeakyLeahy


28 posted on 11/20/2012 8:50:06 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Cheerio
Hah! The Gov’t has been able to read your emails since at least 1986 as long as they are over 6 months old and a subpoena is issued from a prosecutor!

No warrant required!

29 posted on 11/20/2012 8:50:18 AM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: Theoria

>>....has been able to read your emails...<<

....and I thought it was the *drafts* that both senders were accessing for their communications... about the launch codes to his missile. Heh.


30 posted on 11/20/2012 8:56:08 AM PST by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: Daffynition

ROFL. Good one...


31 posted on 11/20/2012 9:00:04 AM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: Spunky
Also I read through the whole article and didn't find what this bill is called. Such as Senate Bill SB1234 etc.

It looks like it may be related to the bill listed under consideration for this day:

Senate Judiciary Committee

Which refers to this bill:

H.R. 2471

But don't worry, the bill is innocuously titled:

clarify that a video tape service provider ... ...may obtain a consumer’s informed, written consent on an ongoing basis and that consent may be obtained through the Internet.

IOW, it sounds like every time you agree to terms and conditions you'll be granting those 22 agencies the right to examine your stuff.
32 posted on 11/20/2012 9:00:32 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: stuartcr

Hillary Clinton held 900 FBI files without a damn patriot act or criminal prosecution.

Evil people are going to do evil things, the law be dammed.


33 posted on 11/20/2012 9:01:51 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Spunky
Dang, nailed by the copy-paste anti-pattern. Here's the bill:

H.R. 2471

It's hard to tell whether that includes Reid's latest revisions. The dates seem too old for that.
34 posted on 11/20/2012 9:03:32 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: gdani

Good reminder.


35 posted on 11/20/2012 9:03:49 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: microgood

Some in law enforcement claim that everyone is guilty of something and that the first words out of any “perp’s” mouth are a lie.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 9:05:36 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Spunky
A person should be able to go read the actual bill.

Pelosi: we have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it
37 posted on 11/20/2012 9:09:22 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio
So, for all out there, delete FB accounts, no more webmail (use Thunderbird or Outlook), no more "Cloud," etc. Keep away from all social sites.

Of course I'm sure they'll be coming after FR if this bill passes. Dark, dark, clouds on the horizon.....

38 posted on 11/20/2012 9:09:38 AM PST by ducttape45
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To: Cheerio

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39 posted on 11/20/2012 9:14:17 AM PST by DBrow
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To: molson209

No, govt emails are private and only the approved party in power can have access to those. Never mind the private emails violate numerous laws.


40 posted on 11/20/2012 9:17:28 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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